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    Um, Hi i guess not really into forums, ive given up on most forms of media (facebook and such) ive been through a long and extensive transition, or an enlightenment if you will. My eyes have been opened, at least partly, for a long time now. I'm not a "truther" or a "conspiracy theorist" but I do see coruption everywhere i look. it makes me angry, REAL ANGRY. Now i guess to the point. through this enlightenment ive had many different forms of slavery, but among them i went door to door. not selling anything just convincing people to let my "factory representative" come by to do what we call and "estimate" (btw if Paradise Home Improvements ever calls or knocks on your door tell them to kick rocks) but its given me a chance to work on my people skills, and to talk to people that i would normally never meet. i would love to go door to door for something i actually believe in. to show the evidence to each and every person i meet. to hand out dvd's to people and maybe even watch it with them. to help enlighten the world. i know this sounds rigorous and tedious, but its the closest kind of connection there is. face to face, word to word. answers can be given on the spot. this all started when i got into philosophy, which is what originally got me asking the more important questions, and ive come to understand that the highest type of intelligence there is, at least in my opinion is not answers, but questions. now the problem is, i need my slavery notes. i do still have monetary needs just like everyone else. and im not willing to ask for donations door to door for this as it to me would be hypocritical. (btw the free movie downloads was noticed) now im not asking for someone to pay me to do this, simply fund it, as to do this properly i would need the proper supplies. Something like a decent tablet and a few usb drives would be the first step. that way, at the door, i can show people the information that is out there, email links, and most hopefully start a local movement. i plan on running for mayor of my little city here in South Carolina in 2017, not because i believe i can make change through politics but because it would put me in a position where more people would listen to what i have to say. and eventually maybe set up a test site, if you will. somewhere that the world could look at and say "hey its working". I dont know how i'd implement the ideals quite yet, thats left to be answered as many things are, but i feel like it would be a step in the right direction. The world can be changed, I know it can, because it has before. we just have to take the right steps to do it. i could talk forever about this but ill leave it here and see what others have to say/feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Um, Hi i guess not really into forums, ive given up on most forms of media (facebook and such) ive been through a long and extensive transition, or an enlightenment if you will. My eyes have been opened, at least partly, for a long time now. I'm not a "truther" or a "conspiracy theorist" but I do see coruption everywhere i look. it makes me angry, REAL ANGRY. Now i guess to the point. through this enlightenment ive had many different forms of slavery, but among them i went door to door. not selling anything just convincing people to let my "factory representative" come by to do what we call and "estimate" (btw if Paradise Home Improvements ever calls or knocks on your door tell them to kick rocks) but its given me a chance to work on my people skills, and to talk to people that i would normally never meet. i would love to go door to door for something i actually believe in. to show the evidence to each and every person i meet. to hand out dvd's to people and maybe even watch it with them. to help enlighten the world. i know this sounds rigorous and tedious, but its the closest kind of connection there is. face to face, word to word. answers can be given on the spot. this all started when i got into philosophy, which is what originally got me asking the more important questions, and ive come to understand that the highest type of intelligence there is, at least in my opinion is not answers, but questions. now the problem is, i need my slavery notes. i do still have monetary needs just like everyone else. and im not willing to ask for donations door to door for this as it to me would be hypocritical. (btw the free movie downloads was noticed) now im not asking for someone to pay me to do this, simply fund it, as to do this properly i would need the proper supplies. Something like a decent tablet and a few usb drives would be the first step. that way, at the door, i can show people the information that is out there, email links, and most hopefully start a local movement. i plan on running for mayor of my little city here in South Carolina in 2017, not because i believe i can make change through politics but because it would put me in a position where more people would listen to what i have to say. and eventually maybe set up a test site, if you will. somewhere that the world could look at and say "hey its working". I dont know how i'd implement the ideals quite yet, thats left to be answered as many things are, but i feel like it would be a step in the right direction. The world can be changed, I know it can, because it has before. we just have to take the right steps to do it. i could talk forever about this but ill leave it here and see what others have to say/feel.
    I can relate to that. What I think you're describing is you notice there's a "lack of purpose" in the current method of Government Service Sector Jobs, essentially fiat job creation. It's just something to make money, and it's not necessary work at all. I like gardening for this reason because I find purpose in it hehe. Ever thought of pushing banks & big business to start a Kickstarting Manufacturing Forum based on resource allocation? The Goal would be to create the most product output, with the least amount of energy input, all under the scrutiny of participants, potentially world-wide. I'd love to see something like that sprout and open doors to more innovating local & global projects.
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    SELLING - Sales Pitch - Influence - Influencing.

    I too am tending to use less Facebook and other forms of media since feeling more compelled towards living a life less and also disconnecting from main stream in general. However, when it comes to outreaching I can't help but think this is where connections need to be made. This is no easy task given the amount of noise one has to reach through; but first let me voice concerns about door to door.

    I live in Australia. I am not sure what culture aspects to think about when considering a door to door approach, but I do believe there are some considerations that should be taken into account. I live in a Semi Rural location that sees a lot of religion that generates more hate than love; especially when it comes to door knocking. I know this through my previous involvement with the local social media group/s, let alone what one hears in this or that waiting room when people do mange to say a word or two. (I've also lived in many places - seen and experience a LOT of door knocking - and Known some door knockers) That is separate to my existing Bias as well. I admit that I could be kinder when imposed upon by such groups myself. I often tell them "Thanks, but I am actually looking forward to burning in hell." I find it less aggressive than sicking the dog onto them. It's also being honest and tends to cut the drama down to a quick 30 seconds to which they then proceed to the next house where they receive a similar reply and thanks. Third house down sees the dog being let out.

    Religion has not helped this form of reaching out. I have been on both sides of the fence. Those that door knock, typically do so to sell something. Religion is offensive enough but so to is the selling of products that people have no real interest in. No whilst I am sure there are those who believe in what they are trying to sell; the general contention that door knocking sees in "many" of the areas I have lived, (30+ houses over 15 different regions) I can only surmise that Door to Door will see such a movement being sold like so, as a Negative thing.

    Especially when you tell them that it is for free. We no longer live in that age of "Little House On The Prairie" (usa TV show from early 70's - early 80's) where one would see the doctor, school teacher, shop keeper and so on, regularly arrive on ones door step. Truth is that TV show was more a fantasy than anything else, as many people have in fact been reported to grabbing their guns at the sign of anyone knocking on their door and still to this day; not much has changed.

    Then there is that fact that whilst some of us are awakening to this rampant lifestyle we now find ourselves in and looking to disconnect from the main stream ways of doing things, door knocking whilst it may seem appealing to human contact ... the very fact that we have succumb to a near full time digital society, would have many individuals shocked to have spam knocking on their doors. The psychological break down that is well discussed in the TZM docos plays into many forms of paranoia that would see many guilt ridden citizens unable to receive the message when it comes in the form of it knocking on their door. The front door most people today, is their last line of defense in a world gone mad. Unfortunately we now have spam breaking down our last line of defense - Ring Ring - Ring Ring - Ring Ring - Ring Ring !!! "errrrr hello" Hi have you met TZM as your personal Lord & Savior? Let me tell you what TZM has done for me ...

    Of course this is just my view. Perhaps things are different in other countries. I grew up in Australia. I am 46 years old and think I have seen a thing or two on this side of the fence. I have also seen a few different fences in that time as well. I sincerely believe door knocking would do more damage than good. From what I can see - (as a complete newbie to TZM - that tzm is not into selling at all [not in the conventional sense]) - door knocking will very much have the message seen in a negative light.
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    I apologize for such a long winded post. I too am passionate like many others here to reach out with the TZM message. I am however very careful of the act of selling. (Just even the repetitive sound of such a logo sets off alarm bells) So How To Influence without Selling?

    I guess I should leave that to another long winded post. But just quickly I ramble some more thoughts.

    In the line of thinking with regards to the benefit of Human Interaction. I would propose a stand in a mall or street situation. Much less imposing than knocking on doors in 2015. Yet we still must consider the apprehension/paranoia/defense that comes with such face to face reaching contacts. Again its all about sales 24/7 - a continuing stream of imposing information being bombarded from the moment one exits their front door. The transition from digital to analogue and so on. There is barely a break in connection as one makes it to the store. People are fighting to catch a moment in their breath and then finally once passed all that static they make it to the mall. Then there you are standing next to some huge graphic design with your face all pump up and ready to great. "O damn it, not another one ... I wonder how much he/she wants"

    OK - Not everyone is as broken down with the system (just a very very large percentage) - hmmmmmm ... I have to admit this has been fun thinking this through.

    Let me consider what I found off putting over at the Venus Project web site. - I was thinking of sending them an email but thought better of it. Instead I check out TZM's website to see how the offering was being presented over here. For me - just a broken down citizen ... I found the presentation so much more appealing and trusting on this side of the fence. incidentally, I can understand why there is the common split that occurred between the two ... (bit like church all over again) ... given the contrast between the "selling" of the two.

    The Venus Project website actually seemed to conflict it's message with it's gift shop. Perhaps it's just me - My Bias to do with sales pitches and continual BS with the usual focus on Money and bla bla bla. Then there was the flashy stereotyped couple presentation standing on the hill taking a photo of the sales pitch stationed below. (I am talking about one of their flashy sales pitched banners to go with their gift shop) Don't get me wrong. I am right into digital design and making flashy banners that get a point across. I love that kind of thing - been doing if for years. BUT ... it's just using the same techniques that we are bombarded with all the time.

    I understand the reasoning that comes with influencing in a realm still currently under much deception and unfortunately to be heard one might think that the same kind of techniques are required; but I think The Venus Project is too unbalanced with such an approach. Would of been far better to depict a wider variety of the public on such a main stream banner. But I guess I am just over sensitive like millions of others to such techniques. Then there was their research banner picture which pretty much captured a lot of stress and uncertainty with only one smile to be seen. Again - I used the world unbalanced.

    Who am I to speak of such things. I was just a visitor to their site, not some media designer. Seriously - I felt a bit like someone on the outer despite their claims of universal love, kindness and compassion. There adverts depicted the same old taunts of selling and then the gift shop was extremely overpriced. My wife made negative comments before I could even process what started to feel like BS to me.

    Perhaps its just an audience thing .. pull in the ones that can afford to spend? Yea that must be it! The ones with the funds. Hmmm that I can understand ... but one has to consider at what price. Is there an element of damage in this compromise? How much more important is it to developed overall attitudes? Many of the disillusioned will no doubt be limited to how much they can give, whilst those more able still have their own bias to contend. Those more limited will be more sensitive to the sales techniques that the more able seem to only hear. hmm -

    I again apologize as I don't mean to be Bias here - yet agree fully with the list of 10 hints and tips at the TZM Blog when it comes to communication. I don't want to sound pompous and full of Ego with questionable views.

    Anyways - whether your doing a website or tending to reach out in one in one - there is no doubt a LOT to consider. I am racking my brain as one of the less able, however I do believe there is still many options to consider. I guess this is where trying all different approaches to cover the many groups that all need a guiding hand into this shift that is seemingly never going to take place; need to be employed. (such a dirty word) I only say as much more needs to be identified, rehearsed, relearned and so on - I mean not to incite lack of confidence ... just the opposite actually.
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    Hmmmm - just toying with things now ... NVC (non-violent communication) ... really loved reading about that elsewhere in this forum. That has helped me to think quite a lot. I think that is a big help when considering reaching out on social media. The reverse side to asking for money from those able (conflicts and reasoning already discussed) is giving in to the negative and toxic language so often used in wider forms of social media. I think this might reason why some people do not advocate as much using such media, however I do feel there is a way it can be done. I am sure many in here already have some awesome pages up and running. If anyone knows of any good links or dedicated article to presenting a message to whatever audience please do PM me. The only thing I ask though is that it's more about dealing without using the same old BS brainwashing techniques.

    I even had to question the Binaural Beats in the background of the Docos. I laugh to think as I explained to my wife what that ringing in her ears was. "No darl, You don't have tinnitus ... not just yet ... it's layered into the background as a helpful effect" I was actually thankful for the inclusion because it helped me to focus for the LONG periods of time and also better assimilate the message. I explained to my wife that NO, she was not being brainwashed and went more into the positive aspects to the accompanying beats, although admittedly I think it was a risk given how some people can get physically ill from whatever exposure to whatever frequencies.
    I am hypersensitive but typically find most bio feedback compilations beneficial. I'm always on the look out for subliminals and think everyone in society should be, (for both the negative and positive effects [first to unlearn, then to learn) - but that's another story.

    Keep up the good work guys -
    Until Next Post.
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