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Thread: Peter Joseph TZM Podcast for Feb 18th 2015 - Q & A

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    Allow people to ask their questions Dev. It's to be expected that PJ will have developed a cult following(fan base). I would assume PJ will pick the questions he will answer in the short time frame allotted for BlogTalkRadio. I would surmise that if there is a drop in active membership it will be because of the pressures of our current system. As per how to reverse it, I suppose will have to come down to a recognition of A)No person can be actively engaged in more than one activity at the same time B)Each person will have developed thought habits that prioritize certain activities over others. This is a consequence of being a linear species. I think the organizational structure of TZM has taken this into account. Where the conflict is coming from is individuals are coming in looking for hierarchical leadership that has the answers and a step by step solution to the finish line, as that is the cultural habit constantly reenforced by the current social system. So there is a serious information gap present in those that actively push for the newer possibilities from those that do not. There will most certainly be an information lag where new information presented may take time to be accepted by any one person if at all relative to their personal circumstances. Another time lag once accepted before any one person maybe willing to act on it if at all relative to their personal circumstances. I think the goals of TZM have taken this into account as well. Given the nature of the endeavor that is being undertaken by trying to encourage people to go in a different direction that is for all intents is an unknown with unknown outcomes, with only the barest of glimpses by a strong mathematical and scientific case for assurance, it will be understandable if many will just be to afraid to take the chance. It will be up to those individuals who are not afraid to invent the processes that will make it easier for others to take the chance.
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    Thanks for your time
    I would like you to explain your view on free will. On a recent interview you assert there is no such thing as free will, and in another recent quote you say "it is up to us". These statements seem to be in contradiction of each other

    Second question
    On the subject of your recent announcement that you will be participating as a judge for a united Nations contest
    It seems like if any other destructive criminal organisation like HSBC, wal-mart or shell held a socially conscious contest and asked you to be the judge you should refuse because of thier criminal/ immoral /dysfunctional activities. My question is do you agree that UN is a dysfunctional & destructive entity overall?

    Final question
    It has been said in a recent documentary that one should not consider oneself an environmentalist if one is not vegan. I feel like this statement is too absolute but nonetheless it does seem like avoiding animal products and at the least reducing the mount of meat and fish in ones diet is morally correct in light of the facts and issues highlighted in cowspiracy. Your thoughts?

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    Hi Peter,

    Have you tried to get in contact with other established anti-capitalist speakers such as Naomi Klein, Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges, Julian Assange, Edward Snowden (possibly), Abby Martin (again), Thomas Piketty and Russell Brand in order to hold public talks? Even if the discussions openly stated that not everyone has the exact same solution to the corporate fuckfest we currently find ourselves in the grip of, it would be great if a short film or a talk to be put on Youtube could be set up in which the world could freely watch outspoken members of the true "left" discuss between themselves in an arena uncensored by standard debate moderators.

    Similar intellectual discussions have been created - most notably the "The Four Horsemen" meeting with Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennet. Although personally, I'm not a fan of any of the aforementioned's methods on communicating with society as a whole (nor their politics), it's nonetheless beneficial that such a thing even exists and I think a similar scenario with those mentioned in my first paragraph would truly be groundbreaking.

    *Obligatory awkward cyber-back pat*
    I'll also take this occasion to say that I'm a great fan of your work and laud the effort you put into educating people.
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    My message for PeJo or anyone who cares to answer: Currently, are there any social media outlets (fb pages, mobile apps, websites, etc.) dedicated to linking all the activist movements and helping us stay connected? If not, would TZM, or anyone interested, be willing to help start one up or provide me with some useful info on the best ways for me to accomplish this? I feel it would be perfect to have a website where people can go to see all the various social activist groups around the world - to see where they are specifically located, how many members there are, what their main social focus is, when and where they meet, what topics of discussion do they have within their group and with other social activist groups, what type of collaborative interaction is happening between all groups, etc... a global web-like design, similar to Jacque's global resource management design and/or the "Brain" computer program used for linking information... we could figure out creative ways to show all the links between all those with these similar interests and efforts, hopefully boosting activist moral because all can now have a clearer understanding of how many people in the world really are working towards the same goals, even though we may seem seperate and uncoordinated. Let's set a working example of the same methods we would use manage the resources in an RBE. Hope there's some good ideas out there, as I would love to collaborate with others, but will figure out how to do it myself if needed... haha

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    The simplest would be to design a website. Wix is pretty good. If you want more creative control take a tutorial on HTML and CSS. Google has dispensed with SEO methods from their algorithms so keyword stuffing is no longer relevant. I used this site and brought a tutorial. https://www.udemy.com/courses/Develo...eb-Development
    There are probably other tutorials on the web as well.

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    Hello Peter,

    I have been a supporters of the movement since the beginning and nearly every day I have been working to educate people about a RBE.

    Here's the problem I keep running into: people today seems to run on emotion and ego, both of which I believe have lead us to where our global society is today. I'm a practicing Buddhist (but also a Pantheist) and one of the teachings I have learned from studying Buddhism is practicing awareness. By practicing awareness for the last 15 years I have found that emotions (especially negative one's) and ego lead to the majority of problems that we face today. By being aware of an emotion as it happens you are better able to handle it and provide a more logic based reaction to a given situation. Has any thought been given to education in respect to how to progress past emotion and ego?

    And no, I don't believe we should become like Mr. Spock from Star Trek (which is impossible and can cause serious mental health problems in my opinion); emotions are a part of who we are (baggage from millions of years of evolution), we as a species simply need to learn how to not allow our emotions or ego to dictate our actions. Once emotion and ego take a backseat to logic I believe people are better able to see how a RBE is the best option for our world.

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    Peter, if we starve our own country’s economies (in mass scale activism), isn’t there a risk that we would become slaves to other countries. For example if most activism is in European and North American economies then we will be at the mercy of other countries. I know we are trying to make global change but this is what could happen since all governments all over the world will stubbornly try hold on to this monetary system.

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    Hey, what’s up Peter?

    As you know, there are many people who want to help, but are still unsure of what to do. Though I’ve heard this issue addressed many times and I agree with the given respones, I’d like to specifically ask “Why does the movement NOT give more direct instructions?” There is a small degree of top-down instruction with some of the social media campaigns, but why are there not more "official" technical projects that utilize member participation?

    I’ve observed a sizable number of skilled people in the movement whose main problems with participation appear to be a general lack of direction, a lack of commitment toward uncertain goals, and a lack of autonomy. Shouldn’t the movement try to accommodate for these short-comings of some of its otherwise useful talented members, by providing more for them to do? If not, I feel like there may be a great waste of potential.

    Having a large number of official projects for people to choose from (and contribute to) seems like an idea worth considering. Amazing amounts of productivity can occur remotely via the internet. If that sounds too difficult to manage at this point, perhaps systems first need to be developed to make that management easier. Can the movement's current structure even accommodate this?

    The internal structure and organization of The Zeitgeist Movement itself is a system with distinct rules and processes. Is that system, and subsequently the movement itself, currently operating at peak efficiency? Here are some questions to consider: How could the current organizational structure be optimized to take better advantage of the internet? Where could it automate or eliminate processes? How could TZM make it even easier for people to get involved in useful ways? What kind of useful data could chapters and individuals collectively aggregate? How could that data be used to better inform the focuses of the movement? In what ways can we decision-making processes become more democratized? What rules would have to cross-referenced in order to maintain the integrity and core focus of the movement?

    What it comes down to is do you feel the movement currently has a good organizational and process structure, or do you see room for improvements and optimizations? What are the current and future plans for this?

    A lot for the radio show, but maybe you could summarize or answer questions that stand out?

    Thanks,
    Josh

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    Peter, What do you say to people that say the movement is not actually achieving anything?
    I become stuck on this one sometimes.

    Quick second question: You said you were going to make an essay regarding free speech & action and how they are the same thing in their outcomes, hows that coming along?
    It would be very beneficial given recent events especially.

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    Hi!

    1. Have you (or any other key-person within TZM) tried contacting Russell Brand about discussing NLRBE on his show 'The Trews'? What about a possible collaboration with VICE?

    2. As a member of Reddit and a subscriber of the TZM subreddit (The Zeitgeist Movement), I really hope we could see a TZM AMA (Ask Me Anything) at some point in the future. Perhaps you and some other key-members of the movement could work together on this in order to answer as many questions as possible? I know that at least one TZM advocate has done an AMA previously (I am Federico Pistono, author of "Robots Will Steal Your Job, But That's OK" - I've founded sustainability and political movements, been involved with the future(s) of education, work, digital democracy, and workable strategies for a transition into ).

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