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Thread: P2P Economy for Transition?

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    Question P2P Economy for Transition?

    I was having a discussion with a friend about the a RBE and they were politely responding with the knee-jerk reaction of "Oh that's just communism isn't it? Remember New Australia? P2P is a much more capable solution anyway." So I looked up what I could on a P2P economy and was curious if anyone thinks it would be good to utilize during the earliest moments of transition. If it isn't I'm hoping someone can explain why for me. At this point I'm neither for, or against P2P (with a heavy skeptical bent that leans me towards "against"), but would like to hear what the community has to contribute to this inquiry.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Saying it's just Communism shows a lack of fully understanding the core essence of what a NLRBE is trying to achieve. Probably concentrating on trying to explain more the Automation/Technology imperatives of the Economy might be able to bring a deeper understanding of what is being talked about here.

    I think a P2P Economy might be similar to a Co-op Economy. So that in a Transitional phase, it could be easier for people to have more control of their Local economies and that they might even be able to implement more Automation/Technology in their production.

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    The government doesn't like P2P economies because they are harder to regulate and tax. That is all the more reason to use the IMO. Like all things that are based in monetary or goods exchange, they are still tied to the idea of ownership which in turn stifles growth and abundance. However as a transitional thing where people are trying to get used to the idea that they don't need to own something to have use of it P2P or co-operatives are a good step.

    I am always being called a Communist, a Socialist or a Marxist. My usual response is "You say that like it is a bad thing". Personally I would label myself as a futurist if I had to bear any label. I like to see past the limitations we impose on ourselves collectively to the possibilities if we could just let go of our prejudices and programming.
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    Exactly don't be like most people. They just like to judge & Label you because you don't fit their World view of how things should operate. They are too biased & Lazy to try and understand other points of view. It's better just to ignore most of them and to seek out those whiling to be more open-minded. Just like you said, the Programming is just too strong for them to realize it at the moment.

    I like Futurist or even something like a Technocrat. Maybe even a Naturalist or Humanist. There are better ways to describe oneself that pertain more to Natural Laws rather than some made-up Political/Economic Ideologies that people like to believe in still.
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    The reason I avoid naturalist or Humanist is because people mix those up with being a nudist or a religious nut - not that I really care .. I am what I am, but I dont want to mislead people as to my intrests or intentions
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    Alas, we humans seem predetermined to categorize and/or place a label on pretty much everything encountered.....it truly is part of our make up....

    Its obviously a useful tool, one that without which our species would likely have perished....Yet its also one that can be easily and purposely abused simply in order to abuse, exploit or offend ......

    People who are obsessed with categorizing other people etc..most often forget all about our complexities and wind up making pointless generalizations and odd assumptions simply to satisfy this 'need' to neatly place people, places, things in a box of sorts....

    You folks all get the idea....

    That all said; I personally do embrace, support and try to live by the concepts/ideas/philosophy/propositions laid out by the global organization/movement known as Humanism....or Humanist. (See...we all do it, we can't help ourselves...

    BTW; Humanism is about as anti-religious as one can get, besides an Atheist perhaps....but there's plenty of self proclaimed Atheists w/in the Humanism Movement....


    The 10 Points of Humanism: A Definition - iHumanism
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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Alas, we humans seem predetermined to categorize and/or place a label on pretty much everything encountered.....it truly is part of our make up....

    Its obviously a useful tool, one that without which our species would likely have perished....Yet its also one that can be easily and purposely abused simply in order to abuse, exploit or offend ......

    People who are obsessed with categorizing other people etc..most often forget all about our complexities and wind up making pointless generalizations and odd assumptions simply to satisfy this 'need' to neatly place people, places, things in a box of sorts....
    Aah yes my Friend I think that's called Compartmentalization.

    I too like Humanism and think Everyone is a Natural Humanist. The problems lies when we begin to see other Human Beings as something Less or Different and forget our Biological connection as 1 Single Species. Another good one would be something like an 'Automationist'. Someone who believes that Automation should be implemented in Most of the Economic Production/Distribution of Society.

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