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    Positive change requires a positive mindset!

    I suppose a lot of us feel similar to each other, that we're at a loss, not knowing how to effectively implement meaningful change.

    In the past, I've seen a lot of threads with titles like the current ones:

    "trying to make an impact"
    "how can an individual have the biggest influence?"
    "why is transition so elusive?"

    I suspect that the majority visiting the forums has felt that society in it's current form is creating negative results, and that change is needed to create something more positive. So, essentially, we're coming from a negative feeling environment, so it's easy to carry with us negative mindsets from that environment, and those mindsets can be sneaky.

    For example, do you feel that you're living in an oppressive top-down society, within a monetary system that hinders your ability to contribute to society positively? I am afraid to say that this is victim mentality, and viewing it that way is completely NOT WORTH IT. Could it be true logically? Of course, it's pretty obvious. However, it's not worth having that mindset because it makes you feel less influential in society, and can actually contribute to your failure to create positive change.

    A positive mindset can actually have the opposite effect. It can open up doors of opportunity for you. The key thing here though, is that even if an opportunity doesn't come along, you'll be ready for it when it does, whereas a negative mindset will KEEP YOU FROM SEEING ANY DOORS even if one is open right in front of you!

    Just having a positive mindset might not magically provide you with any answers, but it WILL help you seek answers.

    Years ago, I left the forums due to how it made me feel. Also, even though I know the world needs the knowledge, I hesitate to bring it up because the society we're all in is so messed up, that I feel like I would make people feel less happy than they already are simply by knowing what I know. There's too much focus on the issues, it's all just so NEGATIVE. I still feel like the posts that are created on facebook often times are too focused on negative information. People don't want to hear about their planet being polluted and people starving and the climate changing and their economic system is outdated and coming to an end. They already KNOW the world is messed up, they see it all around them, they run from it, they avoid it and latch on to any remaining source of hope in their lives.

    I feel like the solutions are more interesting, maybe that's why we're all here trying to figure it out.

    Amid all the negativity, I have found a reason for positivity in this world, and that's the untapped potential of human effort driven by a positive mentality. What I mean is, we're not the only ones with negative mindsets, MOST PEOPLE suffer from them. So, what I mean is, the people that have positive mindsets stand out... I mean like, they stand out so much that they start becoming successful and their dreams often come true.

    I mean, the reality is, the problem with negative mindsets is so massive, that it is the likely reason we have a negative society in the first place. Over time, we collectively have said to each other, "I'm afraid that it's me against you," and not, "we can make it together, we'll find a way."

    So, if you're generating ideas for how to change things, you're already on the right track. I see a lot of threads like that too:

    What if we do this?
    What if we do that?
    I have an idea!
    Here's an idea...

    It's good to share original ideas. The problem is that ideas carry a lot of work with them. So, even a great idea usually doesn't go anywhere unless someone has decided to take that idea and make it happen. Chances are, NO ONE will make that decision to do all that work without having a POSITIVE MINDSET. But it also takes a decision, and that decision will never be made if everyone is relying on someone else to make it happen. So, it also takes the mentality of becoming responsible for the world you live in.

    The world that we live in was created by people, and every single aspect of this world that we, as people, created, is there because someone decided to take on the responsibility to make that change to the world. If those people had waited for someone else to do it, it may not have ever happened. THAT is how important EVERY SINGLE ONE of us is to the world. Even with one less person, the world isn't the same, it's different. Because we make up the world. The world reflects our intentions. Society is the way it is, because we are the way we are.

    So, what I'm saying is, because so many people are just trying to live, and not really living, beause so many people are reacting to their world and not interacting with their world, that leaves the door WIDE open for someone to step into opportunity to make a change. You know all those things about society that you wish were different... maybe you could do something about it. It's not that people won't do it because they've tried and it didn't work... it's that people are too afraid to try it! Even writing this post, I just decided to do it because there's a chance it could make a positive change the world. I only have that feeling because I have a positive mindset.

    Now, if the world is the way it is because of how we are, and society is the way it is because of how we are, then could not money be what it is because of how we are? Society is set up so that money has inherent value unto itself. That doesn't mean we have to value money that way. We can make and use money for any social benefit we have intent to support. If society used money to support causes that decrease the need for money, what's to stop us from decreasing it's value to the point where we don't have any more use for it? We could even unintentionally get rich doing it... but that doesn't mean we have to be greedy with it.

    As an example, I've always been a fan of the Rocky Mountain Institute. This is what they say on their website... sound familiar? "Abundance is the opposite of scarcity. It substitutes sufficiency for privation, contentment for envy, tranquility for conflict, synergy for tradeoff. Just as waste spawns scarcity, elegant frugality fosters abundance. RMI creates abundance through solutions that wring far more benefit from energy, water, materials, and other resources, and showing people how to do more and better with less for longer. We reveal how to meet the needs of a clean, prosperous, and secure world not by felling the last tree and catching the last fish, not by scraping the bottom of the barrel from the ends of the earth, but by innovative design, rigorously applied and vigorously promoted."

    And another point on the site, "Just as whale-oil suppliers ran out of customers in the 1850s before they ran out of whales, oil and coal are becoming uncompetitive even at low prices before they be come unavailable even at high prices. Itís about $5 trillion cheaper, and smarter in other ways, not to keep on burning them, even if their hidden costs were worth zero." Essentially, this organization is helping to improve the world WHILE helping businesses make money. Either way, if the end goal is abundance, the economy shrinks and becomes less relevant.

    What I'm saying is, we can use what potential we have right now to create change, and it's our intent, not the system, that determines the end result.
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    Thanks for this offering....I must agree with much of what was said. Thinking positively generally has positive results.

    IMHO; Its the old "Law of Attraction" that you have described. A few years ago there was some charlatans running around calling such thinking "the Secret" and bringing in all kinds of $$ for themselves, just to tell people what they already instinctively know. If they helped folks reach some level of enlightenment.....then one can suppose its a good thing, no?

    Many of our most beloved people, both living and dead, many of those mentioned in our history books were strong advocates of the theory of;

    "We are what we think" we are.

    There is however an unfortunate aspect to all this positive thinking. As our eyes and minds are opened to the realities of our world (knowledge) it can be increasingly difficult to maintain without equal amounts of effort....the curse of too much knowledge perhaps? .....but I wouldn't have it any other way....
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    Don't worry, be happy. Not me, I'm PISSED. Anger, is motivating and properly applied will get further than positive thinking alone.
    On the positive side, I can see the changes/transition all the time but there small. And, on the negative side they slap you in the face and piss you off and there not so small. This motivates to look closer for the positive and battle the negative, no?
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    There's nothing wrong with getting pissed for being treated poorly. It's the positive mindset that says, "I'm pissed, I have to do something! I'm going to find a way to fix this!" Instead of the negative mindsets that get us frustrated with the way things are and feeling like everything's been strategically placed against us, like "what can I do, I'm just one person?" or "it's too big of a problem, it's going to be hard to change".

    I feel like the idea of "positive thinking" is typically equated with being complacent and getting slapped around by more aggressive people, and I think that it's worth making clear that there's a difference between telling yourself everything's alright (lying to yourself) and having a "can do attitude" in the face of adversity (positive mindsets).

    The truth is, we have more going for us than we realize. The largest percentage of the population of the world want things to be better and the smallest percentage set up systems and standards and procedures that (whether intentional or not) keep the rest of us thinking that there's nothing we can do, of course it's a complete lie. Each person is WAY more influential than we tend to think. More now than ever. Small parts of the population are changing our world in huge ways. So why can't we? In fact, we HAVE been changing the world already. When we all start focusing on what we can do individually, and look for opportunity to make a difference, and feel confident that we have power to make a difference, and we make the decision to take on that responsibility, THAT is when change will occur in our lives, and we will feel it changing.

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    "Don't worry, be happy" one extreme end of positive, no? The Equilibrium is off, a few can, not worry, be happy but the herd is growing to large to fast.
    I don't view it as positive or negative, i view it as dysfunctional. Stability and security go a long way down that "don't worry, be happy" line. Spread that around, Negativity and Pessimism will also diminish.
    Everything Is Possible. Nothing Is True.
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    It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness.

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    Great talk guys Thanks for this post.

    I believe that the Mind is really the only thing that "exist" in life and so it is how we experience everything in life. Whatever we learn from our Environments is what shapes our Mindsets into working the way it does. Ultimately how much & what we know of the World is what decides where we'll be as far as thinking Positively/Negatively. And as a lot of us know, knowing 'too much' about the World's Problems can keep us in a Negative Mindset that will make it even more difficult to search for the Positives in Life. So that is why I think to stay Positive one needs to always try to surround themselves with MORE Positive knowledge/experiences in their Lives and so that it Outnumbers the Negativity of the World. But it comes back to the Environment and how one experiences it in their Mind.

    Some Environments are way more difficult than others to live in so the Mind Needs to work harder to search for Positive stimuli. If the Mind is Strong and can succeed in doing this, then a Positive Mindset can be reached. In my opinion, it all depends on the State of the Mind and how Healthy & Ready it is to be able to search out the Positive rather than the Negative. Why are some more capable of this? Is there and 'advantage' that some have over others because of some type of Predisposition that some our Born with that helps in making it easier to hold a Positive Mindset regardless of what Environment one lives in? If there is then that would make it that much more difficult for some people to be able to keep a Positive Mindset solely based on their Environments.

    When I meet and talk to people, I'll sometimes try to get a sense of how they view things. I like to think of it as asking the question, "Where is your Mind at"? This question quickly helps me get a sense of how they might view Life and how they would deal with its Problems. You can quickly posit who are those who would be more likely to have a Positive Mindset and those that probably won't. But then again how much of it is because of their Environmental Conditioning or because of some advantage they are born with? And also how Difficult does their Environment make it for them to be able to navigate around the Negative stimuli to ultimately reach a Positive Mindset and be Strong enough to stay there?

    Thanks and I hope More people can find that place in their Lives where we can see the World for all the Positive Potential that it holds. I guess like Brother droneBEE would say that can help us on our journeys. Stay Active and Do More in the World to spread those Positive Vibes my Friends...

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    RhythmAnarchy, I feel like you may be sidestepping my points, or you may be unclear on what I mean by the vague term "mindsets".

    "Don't worry, be happy" may be "one extreme end of positive" but it's not what I'm talking about. It's not the kind of positive mindset I'm talking about. A "don't worry, be happy" mindset creates different results (complacency) than a "turning lemons in to lemonade" mindset (action).

    Is stability and security created by having negative mindsets?

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    Ernest, great point!

    I totally agree that we should surround ourselves with positive experiences, and it does vastly impact the way we think and feel. I also think that as we think about things, our thought becomes our experience, which also impacts the way we think and feel. I have had both positive and negative experiences in life as we all have, and it's through thinking about the positive experiences, and by observing the positive experiences of others that I can gain confidence in my ability to succeed and make a difference in this world if I try. I am hoping to share and spread that confidence here. I could have just as easily focused on my negative experiences and sat around feeling depressed without doing anything. What I started to notice is that it is that confidence that makes the difference between accomplishing things and not accomplishing things.

    Some people may be born with a talent to see the good in the bad more easily, but from my perspective, focusing on my capacity to be positive as a limiting factor isn't that useful to me (although could be an interesting area of research). Whether we fall into a negative thinking pattern more easily or not, I think it's important to understand that it doesn't mean we're doomed to that outcome and we can do something about it.

    This is a good time to explain what I mean by positive and negative mindsets:

    If you feel like things are out of your control, and you're focused on how things affect you, you have a negative mindset.
    If you feel in control, and you're focused on what you can do about things that affect you, you have a positive mindset.

    So, the important thing is to interact with the world around you and try things and you will eventually learn how to carve a path to be successful in whatever you attempt to accomplish. The instant you say to yourself "it's not going to work" is when it's all over and it'll never happen.
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    Ill read this thread later. Study the motivational speakers in the following videos

    Earl ?Nightengale
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxtrSuRBHtI

    Jim Rohn
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-3QVdvtKFo

    Les Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izR-MkzOuLU

    Bob Proctor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5Vwu6Oou8

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    This thread got the same results as when this subject was posted 2 or 3 years ago. Lame.

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