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    Euthanasia and Suicide in RBE society

    When I was 12, someone told me suicide is wrong. Ok, that sounds logical, its a waste of human resource.
    When I was 13, someone told me people who tried it are cowards and they can be put in jail for trying it. Hmm, sounds kinda irrational, but who cares, right?
    When I was 14, someone told me euthanasia is wrong, cowardice and both the doctor and patient can be put in jail for trying it. OK, that's fracking BULLSHHHHHHHHHHHH**T.

    If suicide is wrong, why are we not helping those who attempted it? Something in their lives, their mind or their environment must be so bad that it gives them no other choice (or at least they assume they dont). Shouldnt we be helping them heal and get back on their feet instead of ridiculing them for their pain/suffering and throwing them in jail to add to their suffering? What kind of up-side down irrational dumbazz world do I live in?

    If euthanasia is wrong, what about terminally ill patients who cannot be cured in the foreseeable future? Keeping them alive would only add to their suffering, making them curse those who loved them because they wouldnt let them do it and they die in pain and anger, slowly, if ghosts are real, I bet they would come back and haunt those who prevented him from ending his suffering. Not to mention a waste of god damn medical resources that can be used for other people. The only thing anybody gains from stopping a terminally ill patient from taking euthanasia is the distorted sense of morality and feeling for the living, the one who are healthy will always be the one who prevents the dying and suffering from ending their lives, because THEY ARE NOT THE ONES IN PAIN. This is nothing but selfishness and distorted moral consolation for the living, plain and simple. If I was terminally ill and someone prevents me from checking out because they wanna feel better about themselves, I would take the IV needle out of my wrist and jam it into his/her neck.


    This is absurd and stupid, I dont think this would be advocated in an RBE society, do you?

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    my step father died of rabies three years ago. we have since learned alot more about rabies, but more pertinent to this discussion, is that after finally being diagnosed with rabies, the hospital forced my mother to sit and watch her husband slowly degenrate for two weeks untill he finally died the 'natural' way, while back at home, it's perfctly okay to put the animals dogs that gave him the rabies out of their misery, and then systematically cull the dogs in the area (i live rural and dogs are not exactly pets for most people here). why is it so easy to make the decision with a dog, but not with a human being who plainly stated that if he hadn't been paralyzed by the rabies he'd have killed himself long before checking into a hospital. there seems to a fundamental mis-valuation happenning. if life and death were equally valued, would we not accept suicide and euthenasia as neccesary parts of the life-death cycle? possibly as extreme manifestations of the cycle required by our the growing complexity of our society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pieter.de.beer View Post
    my step father died of rabies three years ago. we have since learned alot more about rabies, but more pertinent to this discussion, is that after finally being diagnosed with rabies, the hospital forced my mother to sit and watch her husband slowly degenrate for two weeks untill he finally died the 'natural' way, while back at home, it's perfctly okay to put the animals dogs that gave him the rabies out of their misery, and then systematically cull the dogs in the area (i live rural and dogs are not exactly pets for most people here). why is it so easy to make the decision with a dog, but not with a human being who plainly stated that if he hadn't been paralyzed by the rabies he'd have killed himself long before checking into a hospital. there seems to a fundamental mis-valuation happenning. if life and death were equally valued, would we not accept suicide and euthenasia as neccesary parts of the life-death cycle? possibly as extreme manifestations of the cycle required by our the growing complexity of our society.
    I truly believe most anti euthanasia and people who condemn suiciders instead of helping them are nothing but religious zealots. Because there is no logical or rational reason for their absurd actions/reactions.

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    I think we are treading a thin line here. When using logic and reasoning to asses someone of whom wants to commit suicide, is applied i think we can draw a line. I have personally lost friends as teenagers to the act of suicide. I might not have enough information but there is no reason i can morally find within myself to assist someone going through a rough patch in life. Now in an RBE i think these circumstances would be dramatically reduced. In the case of a sick/suffering person it is a different moral landscape personal choice then becomes promoted.

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