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    No World For Straight Men - The disturbing truth behind the declining male

    What is happening to our world and health? Why is masculinity declining everywhere in the developed world?
    Is there something we don't know?

    Judge for yourself after reading this article!

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    The article claims that fluoride lowers IQ, inhibits spiritual thinking and decreases fertility. I've drunk water with added fluoride all my life and I haven't had any issues with intelligence or fertility. Maybe the "problem" is that it's not politically correct to be masculine nowadays?
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    found this on the subject. I think we are just more obscured by diversity but we are still here.
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    It was okay up until the depopulation stuff.

    The disturbing truth is that what many people have come to see as a liberation from oppressing cultural norms, is largely the result of deliberate chemical poisoning and psycho-social warfare waged by a shadow international government against human fertility and the family structure.
    I don't see the same thing. The corporate and government elites are just really good at co-opting social liberal movements. These movements, while important in their own right, are used as a total distraction from fundamental changes to the economic system for the benefit of the upper class. Apple Corporation proudly presents itself as a mighty defender of the LGBT movement, which is good PR for the American masses, while they crack their whips at their malnourished, overworked factory slaves in developing countries and figure out ways to evade paying taxes. I don't need to mention how the Clinton presidential campaign and its backers likewise presented themselves hypocritically as I'm sure the people reading here already know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shima View Post
    The article claims that fluoride lowers IQ, inhibits spiritual thinking and decreases fertility. I've drunk water with added fluoride all my life and I haven't had any issues with intelligence or fertility. Maybe the "problem" is that it's not politically correct to be masculine nowadays?
    I'm happy for you Shima, apparently women are less sensible. anyway fluoride is only part of it, yet it did contribute to the zombiefication of our populations, our mass culture and our reproductive and hormonal health. here's some scientific research about fluoride:

    • “In summary, evidence of several types indicates that fluoride affects normal endocrine function or response; the effects of the fluoride-induced changes vary in degree and kind in different individuals. Fluoride is therefore an endocrine disruptor in the broad sense of altering normal endocrine function or response." National Research Council, 2006 Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards | The National Academies Press
    • “Fluoride could effect hormone levels of each layer of the hypothalamus-hypophysis-testis axis, and show the reproductive-endocrine disturbing effects. The reproductive endocrine disturbing effects of males maybe more severe than those of female.” Effect of fluoride on human hypothalamus-hypophysis-testis axis hormones, Hao P at Al., 2010 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20364589



    And here some more on endocrine disruptors and their effect on fertility, testosterone and sperm quality:

    • “We present the evidence that endocrine disruptors have effects on male and female reproduction, breast development and cancer, prostate cancer, neuroendocrinology, thyroid, metabolism and obesity, and cardiovascular endocrinology.” Endocrine-Disrupting Chemicals, Evanthia Diamanti-Kandarakis et al., 2009, doi: 10.1210/er.2009-0002, The endocrine society (2015) http://press.endocrine.org/doi/pdf/10.1210/er.2015-1093
    • Urinary Phthalate Metabolites Are Associated With Decreased Serum Testosterone in Men, Women, and Children From NHANES 2011–2012. John D. Meeker, Kelly K. Ferguson. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, 2014; jc.2014-2555 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1210/jc.2014-25....q0x8IAWr.dpuf
    • “Current male reproductive health is poor and infertility will be an increasing problem. The reasons are not known, but emerging evidence from experimental animal studies, wildlife, and epidemiological studies combined with our biological and clinical understanding support the hypothesis that environmental endocrine disrupters contribute to the problem." Multi-System Endocrine Disruption - Jean-Pierre Bourguignon, Bernard Jégou at al., 2011, Foundation Ipsen
    • The decreasing trends in fertility rates in many industrialized countries are now so dramatic that they deserve much more scientific attention. Although social and behavioural factors undoubtedly play a major role for these trends, it seems premature, and not based on solid information, to conclude that these trends can be ascribed to social and behavioural changes alone. There is evidence to suspect that changing lifestyle and increasing environmental exposures, e.g. to endocrine disrupters, are behind the trends in occurrence of male reproductive health problems, including testis cancer, undescended testis and poor semen quality." Is human fecundity declining? - Niels E. Skakkebæk, Niels Jørgensen at al., 2005, international journal of andrology ISSN 0105-6263
    • “To our knowledge, [this] is the first study concluding a severe and general decrease in sperm concentration and morphology at the scale of a whole country over a substantial period. This constitutes a serious public health warning. The link with the environment particularly needs to be determined.” Decline in semen concentration and morphology in a sample of 26,609 men close to general population between 1989 and 2005 in France. Rolland M, et al., 2012


    And if you think this was not done on purpose, think again:

    (from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huma...ation_planning)

    Paul R. Ehrlich, a US biologist and environmentalist, published The Population Bomb in 1968, advocating stringent population planning policies.[14] His central argument on population is as follows:

    "A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. Treating only the symptoms of cancer may make the victim more comfortable at first, but eventually he dies - often horribly. A similar fate awaits a world with a population explosion if only the symptoms are treated. We must shift our efforts from treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparent brutal and heartless decisions. The pain may be intense. But the disease is so far advanced that only with radical surgery does the patient have a chance to survive.[15]"

    In his concluding chapter, Ehrlich offered a partial solution to the "population problem," "[We need] compulsory birth regulation... [through] the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired family size".[15]

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    Yet another reason why I'm thrilled to have a private well.....that's been providing us some of the purest water on the planet for over 30 years IMO

    Very interesting article though We've been aware of the many issues/claims regarding fluoride for years.....

    I'm not so certain that its use is a conspiracy to control the population as much as its a conspiracy to make money....

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    Floride; What is it good for? $$$$$$

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    This may or may not be related...But...has anyone else researched the effects of LEAD on humans?

    Not just LEAD in our drinking water (Like Flint, MI and many other communities), but LEAD in our gasoline and some types of solvents specifically.

    I know its since been removed from gasoline, but the damage has already been done according to many scientists. In fact, there are some who believe it caused (and may still be causing) all kinds of disorders/conditions/illnesses, to also include violent/criminal behavior, especially among Men who spent considerable time working on and/or with gasoline, cars, trucks, etc....when Lead was everywhere....

    We know that LEAD exposure can make us dumb.....Might it have contributed to the insanity of storming beaches during WWII? Some scientists seem to think so.....

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    IMHO; I was once a follower/advocate of Ehrlich's....(then I discovered Henry George who blew Ehrlich's theories out of the water before Ehrlich was even born), I then found out that the planet doesn't really have a population problem..(except in our over-crowded cities perhaps).....it has a LANDLORD problem......Too many Landlords in speculation mode, denying access to that which was never theirs to begin with......LAND!!!!!

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    The Male (and Female) Human Being is changing, as it should...some may call it 'evolving'... Some may call it 'conspiracy'.....We must all 'chose' to try to be rational and logical, something that is often psychologically difficult for humans.....looking for validation of the irrational or illogical. This is neither bad nor good...its just being human IMO...................

    The Mayan's, the Hopi, the Pueblo and very likely many other since lost/unknown indigenous cultures predicted this approaching 'Change of Collective Consciousness' centuries ago. Are we witnessing it right now in our life times? The Mayan's also told us that we'd continue to experience rapidly increasing episodes of 'consciousness expansion' among the people as we complete the cycle we are living in......so we can advance to the next one...

    All nice thoughts from one who will admit right here and now....I don't know Jack from Jack, satisfied remaining steadfast in the "I don't Know" nothing for sure crowd....but open to nearly anything.....

    And there are many who believe this change (especially frightened/threatened Males), whether one 'chooses' to view this change as 'DE'-masculizing of the Male Human or not, is for the better, myself included.

    My personal wish and desire for many years has been simple; It's that 'Tolerance and Compassion' finally prevail over GREED/FEAR, and that we become fully human and thus collectively 'Humane' in the process.....hopefully before we make the planet unfit for survival in all but a few regions....

    ...is it possible?.....time will tell....
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    Quote Originally Posted by shima View Post
    The article claims that fluoride lowers IQ, inhibits spiritual thinking and decreases fertility. I've drunk water with added fluoride all my life and I haven't had any issues with intelligence or fertility. Maybe the "problem" is that it's not politically correct to be masculine nowadays?
    The problem is men are being raised by women and have no male role models except from hollywood. See here: Toxic Masculinity

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    Quote Originally Posted by wohd View Post
    I'm happy for you Shima, apparently women are less sensible. anyway fluoride is only part of it, yet it did contribute to the zombiefication of our populations, our mass culture and our reproductive and hormonal health. here's some scientific research about fluoride:

    • “In summary, evidence of several types indicates that fluoride affects normal endocrine function or response; the effects of the fluoride-induced changes vary in degree and kind in different individuals. Fluoride is therefore an endocrine disruptor in the broad sense of altering normal endocrine function or response." National Research Council, 2006 Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards | The National Academies Press
    • “Fluoride could effect hormone levels of each layer of the hypothalamus-hypophysis-testis axis, and show the reproductive-endocrine disturbing effects. The reproductive endocrine disturbing effects of males maybe more severe than those of female.” Effect of fluoride on human hypothalamus-hypophysis-testis axis hormones, Hao P at Al., 2010 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20364589



    And here some more on endocrine disruptors and their effect on fertility, testosterone and sperm quality:

    • “We present the evidence that endocrine disruptors have effects on male and female reproduction, breast development and cancer, prostate cancer, neuroendocrinology, thyroid, metabolism and obesity, and cardiovascular endocrinology.” Endocrine-Disrupting Chemicals, Evanthia Diamanti-Kandarakis et al., 2009, doi: 10.1210/er.2009-0002, The endocrine society (2015) http://press.endocrine.org/doi/pdf/10.1210/er.2015-1093
    • Urinary Phthalate Metabolites Are Associated With Decreased Serum Testosterone in Men, Women, and Children From NHANES 2011–2012. John D. Meeker, Kelly K. Ferguson. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, 2014; jc.2014-2555 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1210/jc.2014-25....q0x8IAWr.dpuf
    • “Current male reproductive health is poor and infertility will be an increasing problem. The reasons are not known, but emerging evidence from experimental animal studies, wildlife, and epidemiological studies combined with our biological and clinical understanding support the hypothesis that environmental endocrine disrupters contribute to the problem." Multi-System Endocrine Disruption - Jean-Pierre Bourguignon, Bernard Jégou at al., 2011, Foundation Ipsen
    • The decreasing trends in fertility rates in many industrialized countries are now so dramatic that they deserve much more scientific attention. Although social and behavioural factors undoubtedly play a major role for these trends, it seems premature, and not based on solid information, to conclude that these trends can be ascribed to social and behavioural changes alone. There is evidence to suspect that changing lifestyle and increasing environmental exposures, e.g. to endocrine disrupters, are behind the trends in occurrence of male reproductive health problems, including testis cancer, undescended testis and poor semen quality." Is human fecundity declining? - Niels E. Skakkebæk, Niels Jørgensen at al., 2005, international journal of andrology ISSN 0105-6263
    • “To our knowledge, [this] is the first study concluding a severe and general decrease in sperm concentration and morphology at the scale of a whole country over a substantial period. This constitutes a serious public health warning. The link with the environment particularly needs to be determined.” Decline in semen concentration and morphology in a sample of 26,609 men close to general population between 1989 and 2005 in France. Rolland M, et al., 2012


    And if you think this was not done on purpose, think again:

    (from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huma...ation_planning)

    Paul R. Ehrlich, a US biologist and environmentalist, published The Population Bomb in 1968, advocating stringent population planning policies.[14] His central argument on population is as follows:

    "A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. Treating only the symptoms of cancer may make the victim more comfortable at first, but eventually he dies - often horribly. A similar fate awaits a world with a population explosion if only the symptoms are treated. We must shift our efforts from treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparent brutal and heartless decisions. The pain may be intense. But the disease is so far advanced that only with radical surgery does the patient have a chance to survive.[15]"

    In his concluding chapter, Ehrlich offered a partial solution to the "population problem," "[We need] compulsory birth regulation... [through] the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired family size".[15]
    That's good stuff wohd!

    I'm not sure I can see a link between F and longterm toxicity since F is so similar to CL, but I appreciate that you're so driven to get to the truth and welcome more of this type of posting.



    It's true that F is a poison, but so is Cl. Chlorine is a disinfectant. Chlorine gas is deadly, yet we need Cl to live. We consume oodles of Cl in the form of table salt NaCl. Both F and Cl are extremely reactive and won't stay in your body like Hg (mercury) or Pb (lead). For that reason, it's hard to see it doing longterm harm.... such as lowering IQ and fertility. Effects should be short-lived due to the reactive nature of F. I would be more worried about mercury fillings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SophicDrippins View Post
    The problem is men are being raised by women and have no male role models except from hollywood. See here: Toxic Masculinity


    Hmmm? Haven't children always been raised by women for the most part? I don't see that as a 'problem' at all.

    There's plenty of Good Male Role Models around.....and likely just as many Female ones too...if one 'selects' to look for them...

    If however, all we're looking for is poor role models, that's all we'll see... do you SEE?

    To see them is easy; all one need do is Turn Off their TV....and start getting involved in their community....Because.......That's where you'll find them......certainly Not at the Movies....

    Happy Hunting


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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Hmmm? Haven't children always been raised by women for the most part? I don't see that as a 'problem' at all.

    There's plenty of Good Male Role Models around.....and likely just as many Female ones too...if one 'selects' to look for them...

    If however, all we're looking for is poor role models, that's all we'll see... do you SEE?

    To see them is easy; all one need do is Turn Off their TV....and start getting involved in their community....Because.......That's where you'll find them......certainly Not at the Movies....

    Happy Hunting


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    Just because you don't see it, er, I mean, just because you refuse to look at the evidence, doesn't mean it's not so.

    The destruction of the family by feminism has resulted in single-mothers raising kids without a father around, which molyneux has strongly linked to crime here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBJ5m3sGfk

    Then those single mothers send their kids to school where they are educated by yet more women. Babysitters are women.

    This has not always existed, but when it did exist in the Roman empire, it preceded the fall of the empire and it will usher in the fall of this one unless people wake up.

    Strong men make good times.
    Good times make weak men.
    Weak men make bad times.
    Bad times make strong men.

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