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    Sea levels will rise and tens of millions will be displaced.

    So it has become an established fact that the sea levels will rise; it is no longer possible for us to prevent the worst case scenario. The question now being not how much but how quickly and what we will do to adjust.



    I must admit that I am not nearly as discouraged by this news as I thought I would have been. I am perceiving it instead as the steady application of justice. What I do find disturbing though is that the poor will once again face the brunt of this tragedy. The wealthy will not have to scavenge for food, will not find their only shelter and livelihood drifting out to sea, will not have to worry for the safety of their children.

    Perhaps in the shadow of this chaos we may find a glimmer of hope that the people will come to their senses, and toss down their allegiances to their respective nationalities, ideologies and cultural identities and unite with a common, human, objective.


    Though I find it very unlikely. What I do believe is that the established power structure has already planned for this inevitability and has been planning for it for quite some time. I believe that the volatility of the situation will turn this already very stratified society into a battlefield, these divisions will be used to the advantage of the state. As the disenfranchised poor minorities will take an ever increasing burden of the responsibility for the chaos that will overcome the country. Their faces will be plastered across the media and an equivalent will be established between terrorism and the poor minorities who in the face of injustice will inflict their wrath onto whatever institution they believe has harmed them the most. Upon this pretense the state will increase it's foothold of power and stability will be restored but only after the population has been flushed of it's dissenters.
    "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. " --Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Oh, I'm not so sure. If millions become displaced they'll need to go somewhere…..and the mansions of the well off seem a very logical destination to me. Heck, we publish maps of the 'rich and famous', no?…..it shouldn't be to hard to take back what the real takers of this world have been stealing for centuries. Even the US Military, filled with 'people' who may/will have families suffering back home, won't be able to protect them all. ……Just saying…...

    Best advise I've heard regarding the above flooding scenario? Move inland…..asap…..because our path toward raising sea levels cannot be turned back….it's way too late for that, especially since we're really doing NOTHING (except griping) to stop or slow the process.

    Let the wealthy have the coastlines…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
    So it has become an established fact that the sea levels will rise;
    No. Saying that something will happen is not an established fact, it's a prediction and nothing more than that.

    As I was watching the video, it reminded me of this scene from My Cousin Vinny:


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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Let the wealthy have the coastlines…..
    LOL That's probably what they really want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    LOL That's probably what they really want.

    I think the pentagon is more worried about raising sea levels than our elected/selected. Mother Jones and Rolling Stone have both submitted recent articles related to these predictions, with our war machine setting up to be a leader in the movement (???) to curb it…..but IMO; its already too late. In fact parts of coastal Virginia have been under attack from raising sea levels for several years already, but you probably already know that.

    Access to clean drinking water is going to become our next global fight, soon after (or during) the oil wars have been fought, and most water ways have been polluted, making the world's people dependent on those who will become suppliers (extreme capitalists). During the past twenty years or so, we've been 'conditioned' to believe that 'paying' for (clean?) bottled water is an acceptable endeavor.

    Will air be next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    In fact parts of coastal Virginia have been under attack from raising sea levels for several years already, but you probably already know that.
    I'm not aware of anything like that. I live a mile from Occoquan Bay, which is on the Potomac river. I haven't noticed any significant change in level, up or down; yesterday I drove very close to it (about 20 or so yards away from the edge of it) where I could see it and the Potomac river in the background & the road's at about the same level (maybe only a foot or so above the water surface level), and I've seen no differences in the past 28 years that I've lived in this area. I figure if there's any rising sea level along coastal Virginia, it ought to impact the Potomac river & along with it the Occoquan bay because they're feeding water into the ocean, so it's piling water on top of the sea. That would at least make it rise right along with the sea.

    Post some information on what you're referring to; I'm curious to see what it has to say. I'd like to see something that shows sea level measurements by year, for at least the past 3 decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    No. Saying that something will happen is not an established fact, it's a prediction and nothing more than that.

    As I was watching the video, it reminded me of this scene from My Cousin Vinny:

    Right. A prediction much like expecting an ice cube to melt if you keep it at room temperature is a prediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    I'm not aware of anything like that. I live a mile from Occoquan Bay, which is on the Potomac river. I haven't noticed any significant change in level, up or down; yesterday I drove very close to it (about 20 or so yards away from the edge of it) where I could see it and the Potomac river in the background & the road's at about the same level (maybe only a foot or so above the water surface level), and I've seen no differences in the past 28 years that I've lived in this area. I figure if there's any rising sea level along coastal Virginia, it ought to impact the Potomac river & along with it the Occoquan bay because they're feeding water into the ocean, so it's piling water on top of the sea. That would at least make it rise right along with the sea.

    Post some information on what you're referring to; I'm curious to see what it has to say. I'd like to see something that shows sea level measurements by year, for at least the past 3 decades.
    I'm shocked! I've been hearing about it for years already. Here you go. https://pshs.virginia.gov/media/2854...-fall-2012.pdf

    Its odd how often we don't know what's occurring in our own back yards…..

    Neil; Empty your mailbox (tried to respond to a PM but it said box was full)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
    Right. A prediction much like expecting an ice cube to melt if you keep it at room temperature is a prediction.
    But it's not like a prediction that an ice cube will melt at room temperature, to me. I can expect that an ice cube will eventually melt away at room temperature, and the reason is because I have experience directly observing it countless times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    I'm shocked! I've been hearing about it for years already. Here you go. https://pshs.virginia.gov/media/2854...-fall-2012.pdf

    Its odd how often we don't know what's occurring in our own back yards…..
    This document says that the problem is increases in flooding frequency, and that the increases in flooding frequency are linked to increases in development:

    Although flooding has occurred throughout recorded history, increased flooding frequency or damage is often linked to increases in development.
    The only flooding I've ever encountered living here in Northern Virginia were very few of them due to severe rain storms. Soone after these storms tapered off the flooding promptly receded.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Neil; Empty your mailbox (tried to respond to a PM but it said box was full)
    Thanks; I cleared away a few & I thought that would be enough to make some room, but I guess that didn't work for some reason. I also did get e-mail notifications that my mailbox was full, several for each time that I guess you were making attempts to reply. LOL

    I will clean some of my mailbox out & I'll send you a PM when I'm done. I have to go through what I want to keep and what I don't need, or work on backing them up, and I don't have time at the moment.

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