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    Alternative Energy Source?


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    I'm guessing this is was an April 1 gag, as the article says this has 'just entered the arena' when in fact the Searl device has been around for decades. It's been some 20 years since I looked into this, and as far as I know it remains unproven and unreplicated. Searl has never made his tech completely open source, again as far as I know, I'm not up to date on this. The lack of info, and the expense of the magnets that are said to be required, makes this a very hard device to replicate for testing. It is still lumped in the category of perpetual motion machines at this point. I don't completely dismiss it as such, and Searl seems to be continuing R&D (or just soaking investors, who knows?)

    It would be a global gamechanger if it ends up being the real deal. Not necessarily in a good way, though, since our current economy is not really advanced enough to handle a paradigm shift as big as this.
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    Honestly, despite all the techno-babble about it (searlsolution.com), I can't understand how it works. In the end the text boils down to using 'sun's radiant energy' directly or indirectly (through the environment) that it converts into movement. So that would make it a solar panel or wind turbine in some strange way, but not with light but with magnetism?

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    The Searl Solution

    Searl has allegedly been 'off grid' for over 30 years using his device. Seems legit to me and its back with a renewed effort, but I'd like more proof. Not knowing 'how' something works shouldn't trouble many of the folks in this group.

    @DEV; Am I mistaken that our goal is to dismantle the current economic system? Creating change can be a rough road, but the end goal serves as our carrot, no?

    Lest we forget; Tesla is 'still' (wrongly and/or purposely) considered a kook by those controlling the world's economy and resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Searl has allegedly been 'off grid' for over 30 years using his device.
    But for some reason I can only find videos about the mock-up and not the working prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Seems legit to me and its back with a renewed effort, but I'd like more proof.
    If the guy would go in kickstarter, have a video about a working prototype and give 'eternal night lights' as a perk, I'll throw in a few dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Not knowing 'how' something works shouldn't trouble many of the folks in this group.
    We're supposed to use the scientific method?

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    The Searl Solution

    Searl has allegedly been 'off grid' for over 30 years using his device. Seems legit to me and its back with a renewed effort, but I'd like more proof. Not knowing 'how' something works shouldn't trouble many of the folks in this group.

    @DEV; Am I mistaken that our goal is to dismantle the current economic system? Creating change can be a rough road, but the end goal serves as our carrot, no?

    Lest we forget; Tesla is 'still' (wrongly and/or purposely) considered a kook by those controlling the world's economy and resources.
    Absolutely. If I seem a little cynical it's only because of the many years that I've known about Searl - and Bedini, Beardon, Moray, and so many others, and studied the work of these people, and here we are still burning fossil fuels. My gut reaction to the Searl device is that there is something interesting going on there. Ditto for Bedini and Beardon. It can be argued that these people are suppressed, and I would say that's very likely, but at the end of the day they are still free people walking around in public, talking about their work, so there's a strange contradiction there.

    For me, after years of ongoing interest in these things I decided that we don't need new tech to make energy free, we just need a new economy. A Searl solution would never be suppressed in the RBE.

    @Yasea, the general sort of blanket theory that covers the operation of these things is that the Zero Point field, or vacuum energy, is tapped, roughly analogous to the way a waterwheel extracts energy from a river. This energy does exist and has been shown at work in the Casimir Effect in reputable, replicable experiments. The debate that continues is just how dense the energy is in this field.
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    Honestly I dont' understand how this could ever be real. If it was really working technology it would have surfaced in a huge way by now. I see the dumbest inventions get millions of $ of donations on kickstarter if this really worked there would be a million videos on youtube on how to make them... or atleast one. I'm not saying that getting energy from an alternate source is fake but if this was real there'd be more on it especially due to the length that its been being discussed.
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    Under capitalism, some technologies are 'purposely suppressed' until the last bit of profit is squeezed from current methods/means. Our culture presents many examples of such insanity.

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    Lol. That's april fool, right? Are you sure can use it for your health? I dont believe it will be real, but I think it's so impossible :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handy andy View Post
    The Basic concept behind zero point energy is as follows.

    1) Energy can be created from nothing,
    See big bang theory,
    See the double slit experiment more photons hit the photographic plate than are transmitted, also space has memory of what has passed.
    There is a very fundamental principle in physics, which has been verified in all experiments so far (including the double-slit experiment): the conservation of energy. It states that the energy of an isolated system remains constant. I don't think it can apply to the Universe as a whole as it cannot be considered an isolated system. Also nobody has a clue of what was before the Big Bang (such a question actually makes no sense in general relativity because at such energy densities time itself looses its definition).
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