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    Distribution of luxuries?

    So how would a NLRBE distribute the luxuries of life? The beach front properties of the world, the islands of the world, the finest foods, the finest liquor/wine, etc...who decides how these things are distributed and how would it look like?

    I can see how a library type system could work for like renting yachts or other big ticket tangible items, but when it comes to food and access to the best pieces of land, it is less clear to me. It seems like some luxury items may stop existing, which may be understandable, but how do we determine which ones stop existing?

    I know this may seem trivial in the larger scope of what an NLRBE is trying to accomplish, but when I discuss the idea of an NLRBE with others, they care a lot about how luxuries will be treated and so I'm just curious to hear some thoughts about how to handle this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakingFree View Post
    So how would a NLRBE distribute the luxuries of life? The beach front properties of the world, the islands of the world, the finest foods, the finest liquor/wine, etc...who decides how these things are distributed and how would it look like?

    I can see how a library type system could work for like renting yachts or other big ticket tangible items, but when it comes to food and access to the best pieces of land, it is less clear to me. It seems like some luxury items may stop existing, which may be understandable, but how do we determine which ones stop existing?

    I know this may seem trivial in the larger scope of what an NLRBE is trying to accomplish, but when I discuss the idea of an NLRBE with others, they care a lot about how luxuries will be treated and so I'm just curious to hear some thoughts about how to handle this issue.
    Equitable distribution, like a temporary lottery to obtain a luxury item that has a one time use (considered acceptable to use), otherwise it goes by rotation.

    I will elaborate on this in a new thread.

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    Maybe....with the advancement/evolution of a RBE system, humanity would no longer crave/demand/steal/create such a thing as the "decadence of so-called luxury"...but would instead, simply be satisfied to live in SHARED ABUNDANCE....eventually......maybe?

    ....at least that's my personal wish....
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    So how would a NLRBE distribute the luxuries of life? The beach front properties of the world, the islands of the world, the finest foods, the finest liquor/wine, etc...who decides how these things are distributed and how would it look like?
    The machines, transparent, trustworthy. Most of the distribution process could be automated. The less real people are involved the better.



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    I can see how a library type system could work for like renting yachts or other big ticket tangible items, but when it comes to food and access to the best pieces of land, it is less clear to me. It seems like some luxury items may stop existing, which may be understandable, but how do we determine which ones stop existing?


    WE, don't, the machine will offer options after some exchange of input. After that WE can muck it all up again.
    It's the operating system, a luxury to a starving kid in Africa could be a smart phone or a bowl of rice..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmAnarchy View Post
    The machines, transparent, trustworthy. Most of the distribution process could be automated. The less real people are involved the better.



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    I would suggest we dispense with luxuries like the above and just tweak our idea of luxury to something less resource intensive but still able to do the same job and provide the same experience per individual. Or instead, something like this:



    So many "luxuries" are just so much overkill. Think how redundant large multi-room houses are…all they are is the same room with places to sit duplicated over and over…we need to scale back what we think is luxury…I mean, would anyone be unhappy with the small boat..?

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    I mean, would anyone be unhappy with the small boat..?
    Some of these folks pay the price for status. When selling villas in the islands property that is a bargain doesn't do well until the price is adjusted to outrageously expensive, then multi bidders make it personal and the price goes even higher. The Invisible Hand in the prime.
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    Luxuries?

    You mean what's considered a Luxury Today under our current Social Manipulation and Scarcity based Economics? In the future NLRBE, everything would be built to such High Standards making them inherently Luxurious to all. People would be living such High Quality Lifestyles the way they choose to that they would not crave to have what others have because they are already surrounded by such Luxuries in their own lives. Only Today we desire such Luxuries because of the way the System is set up Today to be so Unequal & Stratified.

    Bottom line, a NLRBE is designed not only to produce more Needs for Everyone but also more Luxuries as well. If we do run into a shortage of a certain Luxury that more people want a part of, then it could easily be accessed by way of how Libraries operate today. With certain limitations & time-frames on that luxury but at the same time, continuing to search for the best alternatives out there to make this a temporary/moderate situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest View Post

    Bottom line, a NLRBE is designed not only to produce more Needs for Everyone but also more Luxuries as well.
    Exactly my thought some people think that NLRBE would worsen their situation but in fact the opposite is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest View Post
    If we do run into a shortage of a certain Luxury that more people want a part of, then it could easily be accessed by way of how Libraries operate today. With certain limitations & time-frames on that luxury but at the same time, continuing to search for the best alternatives out there to make this a temporary/moderate situation.
    Jacque Fresco said something like if there are 10 people who want yachts then build 11 yachts - point essentially being just keep up with demand by exceeding it. I was trying to find a video clip where he said that (that's how I heard it) on YouTube but couldn't find it.

    Otherwise, if certain limitations & time-frames were to be imposed, how will they be enforced? In other words, what if a person doesn't return them by their due date or doesn't comply with limitation mandates? We would have a system based on property and ownership, the need for police, security services, military, investigators; then we'd have to get money, banks, credit ratings, insurance services, accountants, lawyers, etc. To me it's like popping a balloon when that happens. The structure of an "RBE" or post scarcity society has to be built on a sound foundation. When limitations & time-frames are necessary, that sound foundation doesn't exist and we're right back to where we are now.

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    Yeah I agree. Maybe in a different Value System we can have some type of success if the Luxury isn't in demand by to many people. But we should be built on that Solid Foundation based on Technological Innovations that will push us forward with the Abundance we need.

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