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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > I'm still flabbergasted that facebook didn't fall off a cliff into obscurity.

    Likewise !

    I try to study and understand what makes Facebook so successful, and what might make something else more successful.
    facebook gave people identity on-line... before facebook people used names like dickhead99 , but after facebook they use their real name.
    people are so obsessed with themselves that they'd rather give all their personal information to advertisers and government just to have their real identity online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    Now the UK did try a little with small electric vehicles in the 1980's, one example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQetm_qWDg
    > Sinclair C5 (original TV advert)

    Why did that not continue, and by now we would have the C10 car version..
    It did continue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL9000 View Post
    facebook gave people identity on-line... before facebook people used names like dickhead99 , but after facebook they use their real name.
    people are so obsessed with themselves that they'd rather give all their personal information to advertisers and government just to have their real identity online.
    Reminds me of this We are raising a generation of deluded narcissists | Fox News

    On Facebook, young people can fool themselves into thinking they have hundreds or thousands of “friends.” They can delete unflattering comments. They can block anyone who disagrees with them or pokes holes in their inflated self-esteem. They can choose to show the world only flattering, sexy or funny photographs of themselves (dozens of albums full, by the way), “speak” in pithy short posts and publicly connect to movie stars and professional athletes and musicians they “like.”

    Using Twitter, young people can pretend they are worth “following,” as though they have real-life fans, when all that is really happening is the mutual fanning of false love and false fame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    So where does anyone think they went wrong in the past re. electric and/or solar vehicles ?

    Simply the price ?

    Or some design mistakes ?

    I reckon a bit of both myself, as I see some mayor design mistakes that need correcting.
    Probably big oil held it down. Battery technology hasn't kept pace with anything else. I think the electric car industry is waiting on good batteries that are cheap and not so heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > In 2006, Myspace was the thing everyone was into. Facebook was plain and boring and pretty much useless. So how did Facebook come out on top?

    A good question, I wish I knew the answer to it !

    Maybe Myspace did something wrong ?
    From 2005 to 2008, Myspace was the largest social networking site in the world, and in June 2006 surpassed Google as the most visited website in the United States.[8][9] In April 2008, Myspace was overtaken by Facebook in the number of unique worldwide visitors, and was surpassed in the number of unique U.S. visitors in May 2009,[10] though Myspace generated $800 million in revenue during the 2008 fiscal year.[11] Since then, the number of Myspace users has declined steadily in spite of several redesigns.[12]

    Marvin L. Gittelman suggested that the $900 million three-year advertisement deal with Google, while being a short-term cash windfall, was a handicap in the long run. That deal required Myspace to place even more ads on its already heavily advertised space, which made the site slow, more difficult to use, and less flexible. Myspace could not experiment with its own site without forfeiting revenue, while rival Facebook was rolling out a new clean site design.[43][44] MySpace CEO Chris DeWolfe reported that he had to push back against Fox Interactive Media's sales team who monetized the site without regard to user experience.[12]

    The volatility of social networks was exemplified in 2006 when Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal launched an investigation into children's exposure to pornography on Myspace; the resulting media frenzy and Myspace's inability to build an effective spam filter gave the site a reputation as a "vortex of perversion". Around that time, specialized social media companies such as Twitter formed and began targeting Myspace users, while Facebook rolled out communication tools which were seen as safe in comparison to Myspace. Boyd compared the shift of white, middle-class kids from the "seedy" Myspace to the "supposedly safer haven" of Facebook, to the "white flight" from American cities; the perception of Myspace eventually drove advertisers away as well.[12] In addition, Myspace had particular problems with vandalism, phishing, malware and spam which it failed to curtail, making the site seem inhospitable.[45]

    These have been cited as factors why users, who as teenagers were Myspace's strongest audience in 2006 and 2016,[46][47] had been migrating to Facebook. Facebook, which started strong with the 18-to-24 group (mostly college students),[48] has been much more successful than Myspace at attracting elderly men.[49][50][51]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace

    So it was slow in the dialup days. I remember that. Even with a cable modem, it would bog the pc down with all the graphics and ads. That was one thing I never cared for... getting music blasted at me when I visited someone's page.

    I can see the older gents not liking that either and preferring the simplicity of facebook.

    Really, my biggest complaint about facebook was the lack of search, which made it useless. Even to this day I can't find a use for facebook and I've tried several times. A friend of mine buys and sells stuff on there, but that seems more like an offshoot of facebook similar to ebay. Why bother maintaining a facebook account in light of ebay, amazon, etc?

    Linkedin seems a bit more purposeful for the improvement of one's professional life, but facebook is odd. And now it's so big, that's reason enough to stay away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
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    And that's the nature of White Space management. No rules. Not really any plans.] No forecasting markets. Or foretelling uses. No trying to be smarter than the users to determine what they shouldn't do. Not prejudging ideas so as to limit capability and focus the business toward a projected conclusion To the contrary, it was about adding, adding, adding and doing whatever would allow the marketplace to flourish. Permission to do whatever it takes to keep growing. And resource it as best you can - without prejudice as to what might work well, or even best. Keep after all of it. What doesn't work stop resourcing, what does work do more.
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    That sounds awfully like what we are all doing here now, doesn't it !
    Yep, we can't presuppose an outcome.

    Big failures - like Circuit City, AIG, Lehman Brothers, GM - are full of extremely bright, well educated
    Circuit City lost to Best Buy. I remember thinking that the name would determine it. Circuit City sounded too much like Radio Shack. Best Buy sounded like a good deal. And blue is a better color than red... like Kmart's bluelight special. Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer. Blue is first place. Now, why coke is more popular than pepsi, I know not. It could be the name again because people often call all softdrinks "cokes" while nobody generically refers to them as "pepsis".

    That's why I think TZM is going nowhere until someone changes that name. Zeitgeist sounds like poltergeist with a twist of nazism. All bad. And TZM is horrible. We need something like BOP. It sounds silly and the curvy letters are non-threatening. Why am I the only one thinking of this stuff?

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    I'm embarrassed to say...NOT....I don't do FB or any of the other social media distractions....

    TBH; I spend about 1 or 2 hours a day on the computer, most of it here, a couple veteran sites and a couple beekeeping sites. I guess I still prefer 'one on one...face to face...eye to eye' conversation. In my limited experience (mostly what my wife has shown me, she's wiser now ), I've found social media to be filled with immature, self professed experts on everything and bully's who would never speak to another human being the way they speak without the safety of being anonymous..

    I also think that social media has added to our general 'disconnect' from each other rather than bringing us any closer together....at least so far....and again, from admittedly limited experience....

    Question to SD; If you held the power....What would you call 'this movement' that isn't a movement? ....and....Have you thought about just starting your own movement, instead of complaining about what's not to your liking with this one?

    .....just a personal opinion......w/ a q or 2.....
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    > I think the electric car industry is waiting on good batteries that are cheap and not so heavy.

    They help, but you can have a car that works just fine on old fashioned lead acid batteries, mine for example uses those and they only cost me £51 new !

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REVAi
    > Power came from eight 6 V, 200 A h, lead-acid batteries located under the front seats and wired in series to create 48 V.

    Nowadays you can pick one up 2nd hand on Ebay, working from £200+


    Modern battery tech, this seems so far the best off the shelf available, but is expensive..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithiu...sphate_battery

    I plan to upgrade to that when finances permit, so I have greater range, and less weight in the vehicle.


    I'd say the trick with an electric vehicle is not to reduce the weight of the battery, but the weight of the vehicle to match the battery capacity. :-)

    This also reduces the juice needed to move it along, so you can get away with a smaller electric motor.


    As such, you end up with something more like this:

    Organic Transit Kickstarter
    Excuse the lack of doors, as they haven't solved the side wind issue yet. :-)

    https://solarvelomobile.wordpress.co...solaire-roule/
    This example can manage 200 miles in a day.

    Green Cars: Solar cars can absorb the rise and fall of solar energy by adapting their speed.
    The picture here is of an actual production model vehicle, though few was made.
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    > Have you thought about just starting your own movement

    I tried that. :-)

    But once I started talking about how progress could only happen if we did some actual work, and not promising folk someone else would do it all, no one else wanted to help !

    As such, I changed my plans from ones requiring a lot of people to cooperate to make things happen, to what could I do on my own entirely that could move things forward to the point that people would want to help, once I'd done all the really hard work, so they only had to do easy things..

    So, we know the future is one full of automation, but someone has to build the robots, that'll be me !

    Take me a while though..

    I've only just finished building myself a desk. :-)
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    > until someone changes that name.

    I'm not so sure the name matters, after all, look at 'Apple', which must be the worlds most stupid name for a computer company ever !


    > Why am I the only one thinking of this stuff?

    Oh I think of it too !


    > Even to this day I can't find a use for facebook and I've tried several times.

    I find it is useful for networking and bumping into people with similar interests, but it is, as you say, really difficult to do that, as it has no useful search tools which it could have.

    Instead you have to join every group/page that you can find with the interests you want to find others with, and then talk to get noticed, slowly then you can build up a network of like minded folk. As long as your interests are all politically correct of course, which rather limits you to simply things like, business groups..
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