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    > GREED

    The guilty suspect !


    If it isn't possible to remove it totally, if we could at least reduce it, that would be a helpful step I reckon.

    As long as those with less greed are not swamped by those with more greed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > GREED

    The guilty suspect !


    If it isn't possible to remove it totally, if we could at least reduce it, that would be a helpful step I reckon.

    As long as those with less greed are not swamped by those with more greed..

    That's what we have now, right? Thank goodness we all don't behave like capitalists, heh?....this place would've burned a long time ago.....

    That said, I believe that most people 'are' generous and willing to SHARE this world equally....We only need to focus on the real TAKERS of this society and expose them for what they are,,, Self serving, self-promoting, selfish and GREEDY.. and begin questioning how they really obtained their wealth....it wasn't through 'their own' hard work, but the work of other's and the theft of that which rightfully belongs to all....The wealth freely provided by this planet, which we've allowed to be usurped and controlled for devious and selfish purposes....

    Again; its called chopping at the ROOT....as opposed to simply trimming the branches....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest View Post
    There's probably some Evolutionary significance to it but basing it on someone's Race or Nationality has to do more with a Social/Cultural component to it I think.
    The point was to show that Neil was plain wrong that not all individuals are racist.
    "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    The point was to show that Neil was plain wrong that not all individuals are racist.
    So all individuals are Racist you're saying?

    Maybe all individuals hold some type of prejudice or stereotype about something but I don't think everyone holds them about some Race. The more we Learn & Interact with other Groups, the more I think we can learn to accept them as just Humans Beings. But it's this type of action that people don't want to involve themselves with that makes it easier for them to hold on to these Racist views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    The point was to show that Neil was plain wrong that not all individuals are racist.


    This may or not be true, depending on the person we're speaking of., where their heart is (how can anyone ever know what's inside another?)...and the ACTIONS they've taken and not taken during their lives, or the WORDS spoken and not spoken....

    "The truth depends on where one stands" (ask Einstein)

    We may not all be racists but we do all seem 'compelled to enlist ourselves into one Tribe' or another, depending on which way the wind blows (speaking about the masses in general terms here), without ever fully comprehending, or in most cases without even bothering to contemplate the 'science based' fact that there is only one race of homo sapiens or human beings living on planet Earth......and that we've never really gotten along with each other too well...

    Our delusional and petty differences are more akin to reptiles than humans, and only benefit our Masters...IMO... And we can continue to sit on our butts, complaining and pontificating about endless solutions....OR, we can take an ACTIVE part in the Transition 'wherever we LIVE' today....with every opportunity, with every encounter with a fellow human....

    HUMANS; Most are Sheep, a few are Wolves, Coyotes or Weasels, and even fewer are Sheepdogs...

    ...be a Sheepdog my friends, the experiences, the friendships, the rewards, the successes and even the failures are invaluable.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Well, of everyone posting here, I 'think' I just might know you best....as we've had a few 'direct' debates over the years....no?
    Of those who are presently active on this forum right now, yes, I would agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    TBH; I'm still waiting for the libertarian facts that were proclaimed by you...or any form of meaningful responses to the questions asked, and then ignored ...by you......
    I guess you'll have to refresh my memory. It is possible I may have neglected to follow up on something I posted and received replies asking for a follow up from others, such as yourself. It doesn't mean I ignored them, I probably just forgot (I have rather lousy memory) & the way you're phrasing this doesn't look like it's going to help me refresh my memory.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    BTW; Yes....it was you who began all this Libertarian Defense crap..(look back for yourself, my friend)...and now you don't like or appreciate the responses or have none of your own to offer back so the 'switch' has been made...to now I'm attacking you.....Good for you....
    What are you talking about, that I have nothing to offer back? LOL

    There's nothing I don't like or don't appreciate & I'm not aware of situations where I don't have my own to offer back.

    As far as I'm concerned, I've got all my bases covered pretty well - except for maybe something somewhere on this forum that I've forgotten about because they've gotten buried under other threads & replies. There's so much activity going on here and I'm not keeping track or keeping up with everything.

    If you want to point out where I've missed or didn't follow up on something, post it here; I'll try to check this thread and follow up with responses to it, or maybe you could go back to the thread in question and simply post a reply with something like "Neil, here's one example." I'd be more than happy to take a look at it to follow up on it, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    ...perhaps going back to see where this all stated to crumble might be an excersise worth completing? (I just did) Just saying, Dude.... .....we all might discover a few things none of us realized, as we spend so much of our time typing before thinking and then speaking....
    I usually do that, when I'm trying to trace back all the way to the originating claim or argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Do you really believe you're the only one that has been on a steady diet of repeating around here?
    I know you love to reiterate claims; I think my favorite one is "scarcity is an illusion". Problem is, I don't recall ever seeing a good defense from you that backs that claim of yours, and I'm still waiting for one; and no, what you tried to offer up didn't help, unfortunately. I think one of your responses was something like, "just look around" & I need more than something like that. I also don't actually think I repeat myself very often, although like I said I have rather poor memory so I probably have simply forgotten about how many times I may have reiterated something (particularly me trying to point out that who I am is irrelevant).

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Rand Paul is no expert on this subject....in fact I feel he is a deeply confused man...
    Oh my goodness, droneBEE, for one thing how could you possibly know something like this? How do you know whether or not he's an expert? Do you know him personally? Does someone have to have a formal education from academia on a subject in order to be an expert? Are you some sort of expert on who is or isn't an expert in something?

    I also don't see why some sort of advanced level of expertise, as you seem to be making as a requirement, is necessary in this case; I don't think it takes much more than the ability to study a little bit of history and be able to read things like facts. Rand Paul is a practicing surgeon, and has a degree from a prestigious university; I'm pretty confident that someone like that is capable of studying history, looking at facts, and reading something.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Someone PLEASE provide one example that socialism (and not GREED) has ever been the cause of genocide....
    I'm interested to see someone provide an example, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    There's only one race...its called Human....
    I agree with you 100%, here! The problem is along the lines of semantics and communication. If I'm using words like racism & racist, I think people instantly know and understand what I'm referring to; on the other hand, would I get the same effect if I were to write ethnic-ist or ethnic-ism? I'm very doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    I agree with you 100%, here! The problem is along the lines of semantics and communication. If I'm using words like racism & racist, I think people instantly know and understand what I'm referring to; on the other hand, would I get the same effect if I were to write ethnic-ist or ethnic-ism? I'm very doubtful.
    We should all work toward debating/discussing without 'assumptions' wrecking the conversation before it even begins....

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