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    Money and Religion

    I've been thinking about possible connections between money and religion. Before I get into the religion part I'm wondering when money was invented. The way I see it throughout most of human history money was non-existent or relatively insignificant, until around ten thousand years ago when the birth of agriculture made owning the food supply possible. This new need to keep track of what people owned introduced money into our world. Does this sound right? Is it fair to say that money was invented around ten thousand years ago?
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    Welcome back Brad*

    Sure, the assessment seems reasonable...Some kind of CROP was likely the first thing used to exchange for something else in big ways....although it could have started long before that as well, no?.......Such as trading mastodon or deer meat for honey perhaps....The transactions we could imagine are too numerous to consider all the possibilities IMHO....but 'trading' something of value for another thing of value isn't quite the same as exchanging paper that has been 'provided value' by our Masters, which requires FAITH in such a system.....perhaps that's where religion comes in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    which requires FAITH in such a system.....perhaps that's where religion comes in?
    Great observation dB ; it requires a leap of faith to believe paper with president face has any value whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL9000 View Post
    Great observation dB ; it requires a leap of faith to believe paper with president face has any value whatsoever.
    All money takes faith. The only reason gold has value is that you believe someone else will take it from you in exchange for food or something usable.
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    I don't see the link.

    money is a form of currency that arose during the age of the mercantile economy. Its a lot more efficient to trade with a commonly valued piece of gold than trading different types of resources directly.

    religion is a mythology (or series of myths) built upon a philosophical baseline. such as the abrahamic religions based on the 12 commandments that were the common set of ethics during that era.

    there is no direct link, the closest thing that comes to my mind was when catholic priests used a ticket to heaven as currency to enlist men into the crusades
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenGear View Post
    I don't see the link.

    money is a form of currency that arose during the age of the mercantile economy. Its a lot more efficient to trade with a commonly valued piece of gold than trading different types of resources directly.

    religion is a mythology (or series of myths) built upon a philosophical baseline. such as the abrahamic religions based on the 12 commandments that were the common set of ethics during that era.

    there is no direct link, the closest thing that comes to my mind was when catholic priests used a ticket to heaven as currency to enlist men into the crusades
    The common element is faith. One has faith that their particular religion will buy them something (eternal life, whatnot) and they have faith that their money will also buy things.

    Money can also be a deity and people will sacrifice religiously for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophicDrippins View Post
    All money takes faith. The only reason gold has value is that you believe someone else will take it from you in exchange for food or something usable.
    yes its all practically the same, but when it comes to bank account its even more bizarre; all you have is a number in a database somewhere its value based on your belief in the bank.
    one keystroke and you get a loan. another keystroke and money is deducted... pure abstraction.
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    True wealth is something that can be seen, touched, smell and feel....IMHO

    Money/cash just allowed capitalism to flourish and expand, resulting with humans WANTS being satisfied to the point that our NEEDS are now largely ignored ...or have been handed over to our Masters for safekeeping and future exploitation....

    ....as long as our 'wants and desires' take the lead....humans willingly follow over any cliff we are led ....forgetting that what we need most is each other....

    Of course; That's all just a personal description and opinion of our current predicament...
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    Perhaps more than faith, money is valued out of habit. I mean even if I do not really *believe* that a coin is worth more than its metal weight, I still know, through experience, that other people will accept it for trading against something more useful. These other people also experienced the same thing since childhood, and thus the system perpetrates itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL9000 View Post
    yes its all practically the same, but when it comes to bank account its even more bizarre; all you have is a number in a database somewhere its value based on your belief in the bank.
    one keystroke and you get a loan. another keystroke and money is deducted... pure abstraction.
    Have you seen this?



    Now that's some faith!
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