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Thread: Freud's theory of human nature

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    Freud's theory of human nature

    Freud's theory of human nature is BRUTAL to say the least. in this great lecture professor Dalton analyzes his theory with amazing force and clarity.
    We might not like to hear what Freud has to say, but there is some fundamental truth to his theory.
    Right before Freud professor Dalton analyzes Rousseau and Marx who give opposing view to Freud and somewhat more hopeful.

    What is the truth about human nature? is it somewhere in the middle between Freud and Rousseau?
    The series of lectures is 'Power over people' by Dennis Dalton.

    enjoy

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    The vid wouldn't come up, but its OK.

    As a student of psychology and human nature for 4 decades, I've had some issues with many of Freud's assertions, as have many other's in the field, and have come to prefer the findings of other minds as it relates to so-called Human Nature. I've placed several of them in a variety of threads in the past (I enjoy telling folks about 'new books' containing 'new insights') few years in these pages...but have gotten little to 'no' feedback from TZM members as of yet?????

    a recent fave was "THINKING, FAST and SLOW by Daniel Kahneman ...I keep returning to this amazingly insightful study into the human mind...

    ...and "The Age of Anger" by Pankaj Mishra .....I just started this one over after a quick read, recommended at TZM weeks ago, with 'no' responses from TZM members..... Very cool insights into 'human nature'....for those seeking such info instead of just assuming to know...
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    I saw the video and don't really agree with a lot of what Freud was saying either. He paints too ugly of a picture like we are some underdeveloped apes with no control of our natural instincts. If that were true, I don't see how we could have developed such wonderful Cultures/Civilizations. To me his theories are way to pessimistic & hopeless to imagine that Humans can function Socially from that.
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    Sorry about the technical problems but here it is again:



    i also don't agree with Freud but think its somewhere in the middle between his theories and Rousseau's theories.

    But still i think his theories are very interesting.
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    Freud and Rousseau were both missing an important element: the evolutionary perspective. The theory of human nature should be elaborated again taking into account our most recent findings in eg evolutionary psychology.
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    Like most folks, Freud had the 'natural' tendency and desire to categorize people and their behaviors (everything really)....failing to notice that people and their behavior was much more complex than even he could imagine at the time. ....although I certainly agree that his theories and his early advances in the field are minimally interesting, albeit quite controversial these days....

    And of course, he rarely failed to 'elevate' his own said category whenever the opportunity could/would appear (darn EGO)....IMHO; this is perhaps one of the greatest failures in the field....yet it permeates with most 'professionals' even today.
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    > He paints too ugly of a picture like we are some underdeveloped apes with no control of our natural instincts.

    I must read more then !


    > with 'no' responses from TZM members.....

    Either folk haven't read your post. (Which is a common problem with many modern forum designs in that it is very easy to miss posts because there is a lack of decent unread/read flag system in use.)

    Or they disagreed with it, but there is no 'unlike' button, and nowadays it is hard to say something negative about something without it being considered illegal !


    I'm keen to read about the subject, as I wish to know the things we can change about people, and focus efforts on those areas.

    For example, I reckon that funding for projects is much easier with crowd funding than other traditional approaches because of some genetic issue that prevents us from being more sensible with resources when a good idea comes along and helping out.

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