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    It sure was Fun while it lasted

    Just wanted to give a shout out to all my TZM friends who have individually selected to engage in meaningful discussions and respectful debate over these last few years.....before this place also collapses/Closes down under the weight of selective ignorance, schoolyard bullying, bigotry and 'narcissists in denial' (is there any other kind?)

    Its been a great and wonderful Learning experience and mostly pleasurable Ride....and my 'Thanks' are sincerely offered to anyone and everyone who has generously Shared positive and progressive solutions and inspiration.

    ******

    As often happens, a once wonderful idea and place can take a Dark turn depending on the participants preferences, desires and limitations whenever absorbing, debating or taking action over the ideas/opines of others ....TZM, TVP...Heck, Our entire Planet is our most glaring example, no?

    ******

    The World is filled with billions of Sheep, lots of Wolves and apparently not enough Sheepdogs to keep the Wolves at bay without being ripped apart themselves....

    This world needs more Sheepdogs, my Friends....or we can continue to allow the wolves to set the pace, take hostage and insult whomever, disrupt peace and order and eat at the table of humanity without paying the price of admission.....We need more volunteers....always have....

    Be a Sheepdog my Friends.....an honorable way to live, love and die.....




    "if we choose to look 'above' the crowd where all can be seen, we should expect to become a target" -Martha Graham


    ....and please...Always Remember;

    "Nature Always Bats Last"
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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Just wanted to give a shout out to all my TZM friends who have individually selected to engage in meaningful discussions and respectful debate over these last few years.....before this place also collapses/Closes down under the weight of selective ignorance, schoolyard bullying, bigotry and 'narcissists in denial' (is there any other kind?)

    Its been a great and wonderful Learning experience and mostly pleasurable Ride....and my 'Thanks' are sincerely offered to anyone and everyone who has generously Shared positive and progressive solutions and inspiration.

    ******

    As often happens, a once wonderful idea and place can take a Dark turn depending on the participants preferences, desires and limitations whenever absorbing, debating or taking action over the ideas/opines of others ....TZM, TVP...Heck, Our entire Planet is our most glaring example, no?

    ******

    The World is filled with billions of Sheep, lots of Wolves and apparently not enough Sheepdogs to keep the Wolves at bay without being ripped apart themselves....

    This world needs more Sheepdogs, my Friends....or we can continue to allow the wolves to set the pace, take hostage and insult whomever, disrupt peace and order and eat at the table of humanity without paying the price of admission.....We need more volunteers....always have....

    Be a Sheepdog my Friends.....an honorable way to live, love and die.....




    "if we choose to look 'above' the crowd where all can be seen, we should expect to become a target" -Martha Graham


    ....and please...Always Remember;

    "Nature Always Bats Last"
    "Change is almost always negative. Things degenerate." - Woody Allen

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    ru going somewhere?
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    ....this sh1t is sinking fast.....Abandon ship! ....or ride it out.....the choice is always ours to make....

    Kinda like when choosing to practice kindness over meanness in life.....Both actions have specific smells (and purposes) associated with them......one of them is just a lot easier to Give, take and accept....
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    @droneBEE You've been here a while. How has this place changed? Were people more involved in productive ways years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    ru going somewhere?
    .....

    ....this sh1t is sinking fast.....Abandon ship! ....or ride it out.....the choice is always ours to make....

    Kinda like when choosing to practice kindness over meanness in life.....Both actions have specific smells (and purposes) associated with them......one of them is just a lot easier to Give, take and accept....
    Oh no, I was just saying potential goodbye to the old so the new can come into existence:



    Now is the time to start updating, upgrading, and rebranding in the same way that the Right has done so.........I know TZM/RBE isn't explicitly part of the Left per se but many of its objectives/beliefs are more geared towards the Left......I guess it's like the Alt-Left without it actually being called Alt-Left but actually more simply just an alternative movement. And of course, I will mimic what certain proponents/supporters of TZM/RBE would say and that is that we really are transcending above and beyond left-right paradigms.
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    You're one of the best members of this community, droneBEE...sad to see you leave...I don't doubt this place will turn around again once the admin wakes up or new people come in to take over...

    If you'd rather stay, I suggest we all redouble our efforts to contact someone who can restore order here.
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    "They who decry the loss of masculinity the loudest, are certain of it in themselves the least."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad* View Post
    @droneBEE You've been here a while. How has this place changed? Were people more involved in productive ways years ago?

    The only thing that has changed is the sudden lack of common respect, curtesy and decency from some new posters.

    For a long time 'respectful' debate and discussion was the Rule around here and it made this place kinda special. Racism, Woman bashing, blatant and ignorant Bigotry and Right Wing/White Supremacy Kooks were a rare occurrence that just wasn't tolerated by this place.

    We'd get the odd religious nut that couldn't take the heat and left mad......This is a site that is SCIENCE Based, after all...

    As for TZM action (s). I've heard/seen/supported/encouraged and discouraged all kinds of awesome (and not so awesome) plans of action, but know of none of them that has actually left the ground or maybe hasn't even left these pages,,.....?

    The lack of action used to bother me tremendously...I hate to admit it......

    BUT what I hated more was the possibility that THIS PLACE might disappear if WE allow 'intolerance' and intolerant people to Hi-Jack it from those of us seeking a more 'polite' place to just talk about ideas.....even if the ideas go no where.....

    After the last couple months, I've found that I appreciate the respectful dialogue that once dominated this place more than anything....probably because its what seems to be lacking everywhere now days??????

    Its WHY I refuse to do FaceBook..or spend much time at any other Forums...(exceptions to Beekeeping, Science and Veterans sites)

    Besides a few incidents/skirmishes with a few posters (poser's?) "this place. THIS FORUM" is still as good as it gets IMHO.... and I'm thrilled to see its still here every morning....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fsir View Post
    You're one of the best members of this community, droneBEE...sad to see you leave...I don't doubt this place will turn around again once the admin wakes up or new people come in to take over...

    If you'd rather stay, I suggest we all redouble our efforts to contact someone who can restore order here.
    You've misunderstood my intentions....I'm not going anywhere....

    However, I was expressing concern that this place may disappear due to some of the Garbage that WE have allowed to accumulate recently....Its been 'stinking' the place up for weeks and its time to take out the trash, no?

    I've also taken a personal pledge to STOP FEEDING THE BEAST!...in these pages....

    ..so the Alt Right Folks, The Nazi supporters, the Bigots and the Women Haters can just kiss my butt....cuz they will get no more meat from this old man....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fsir View Post
    You're one of the best members of this community, droneBEE...sad to see you leave...I don't doubt this place will turn around again once the admin wakes up or new people come in to take over...

    If you'd rather stay, I suggest we all redouble our efforts to contact someone who can restore order here.
    Speaking of restoring order, there's a thread on the moderation of this TZM Global Forum from Reddit (you'll have to scroll down to find it because the direct link won't link because of an inflammatory word):

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TZM/
    Last edited by serenesam; 01-19-2017 at 04:55 PM.
    "Change is almost always negative. Things degenerate." - Woody Allen

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