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    Donald Trump is against the Alt-Right cult

    Donald Trump condemns the Alt-Right cult: Donald Trump: ?I Disavow? Alt-Right Groups - Breitbart

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    I think serenesam got sum splaining to do..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Donald Trump condemns the Alt-Right cult: Donald Trump: ?I Disavow? Alt-Right Groups - Breitbart


    Of course, we all know the guy will say just about anything, right?

    @ Neil....if you stopped..... while I was in DC...if so, Sorry I missed you at Harry's.......was there Wed 9th Thursday 10th and Friday 11th until about 8 or 9....

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Of course, we all know the guy will say just about anything, right?
    Well, calling him a liar isn't gonna prove a thing. The fact is that just because there's a tiny but very noisy group of people claim they support Trump (that's right, "claim" - I'm not sure I buy that they really do support him or are just part of an elaborate propaganda campaign to portray him as something other than what he really is), that doesn't mean he supports or ever supported them back. Or, maybe they support him because they were misled by the media to believe something about him that isn't true.

    Whatever the case, group X supporting person y doesn't make person y a member of group X, despite members of group X's or people opposed to both group X or person y wishing that it's true. What are you doing other than going along with this myth to help perpetuate it, with this dismissive response?

    I've never seen anything that shows Trump speaking with this same kind of mindset that these "white" separatists & supremacists do. I've never heard him speak in an "our white people" or "white nationalism" tone.

    Give me something that shows Trump reciprocating the sentiment to these alt right bigots, because that's what matters. The burden of proof is on those who make the claim, regardless of whether they're (supposedly) supporters of his, or overtly not fans or supporters of his, that he's a racist. If he does say just about anything, as you're claiming here, can you back it up by showing me examples? I'm referring to something that's from one of his own campaign websites, or clips of an interview that actually shows what he's saying, such as this one:


    At first I disliked Trump, because I (like many others) bought what the media was saying about him. At some point I wanted to show Trump supporters & others that he was bad news because of the things he said; but when I looked into what he actually said, it opened my eyes and showed me that he never said what I was led to believe he said. What has been said about him has very often been misleading or plain dishonest, from what I've seen.

    That's fine if someone wants to disagree with Trump because he wants to repeal & replace Obamacare, because he wants to build a wall on the US-Mexico border, etc. All I'm saying is don't let someone else control how you perceive them because of what they're projecting him to be.

    I'm also not trying to say that any of this proves he'll make a good POTUS just because the media and groups like these alt right kooks are doing things to defame his character. I certainly do hope he will make a good POTUS.

    I don't necessarily agree on everything with Trump. The only issue I have with team Trump/Pence, that I can think of right now, is that Pence seems to be one of these creationist crackpots. Personally I don't really care if that's his own personal belief, provided he isn't going to try to push for any religious beliefs to be branded and pushed as science in public schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    @ Neil....if you stopped..... while I was in DC...if so, Sorry I missed you at Harry's.......was there Wed 9th Thursday 10th and Friday 11th until about 8 or 9....
    No, I didn't go. I figured that since you mentioned your health issues that you probably wanted to bow out (which I understand). Even though I only live 1/2 hour driving distance from DC it's still a pain going in there because traffic & parking in DC sucks. Let me know next time you're in the area and maybe we can meet in person then; I'd prefer somewhere outside of DC, though. How was your event there, anyways?
    Last edited by Neil; 11-23-2016 at 07:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Donald Trump condemns the Alt-Right cult: Donald Trump: ?I Disavow? Alt-Right Groups - Breitbart
    That means nothing. We don't really know what Trump really feels/thinks. He's obviously not going to come out in support of The Alt-Right as some folks on Red Ice have said.

    I would say The Alt-Right is more of a secretive movement because they are being persecuted as Richard Spencer recently said in a NPI conference.

    Everything must be done quietly.....like a bunch of White folks voting for Trump.....it's the silent majority.
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    Another thing is he needs to get re-elected in 4 years.

    Like all labels, you will have people that will claim Alt-Right.

    You will have people that want to ruin it for you.
    "Change is almost always negative. Things degenerate." - Woody Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    That means nothing.
    To socialists, maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    We don't really know what Trump really feels/thinks.
    The same thing can just as easily be said about the rest of the 2016 POTUS candidates:

    We don't really know what Clinton really feels/thinks.
    We don't really know what Johnson really feels/thinks.
    We don't really know what Stein really feels/thinks.
    We don't really know what McMullin really feels/thinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    He's obviously not going to come out in support of The Alt-Right
    Same could be claimed about Clinton, Hohnson, Stein, McMullin, and all other politicians of all other offices and political parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    as some folks on Red Ice have said.

    I would say The Alt-Right is more of a secretive movement because they are being persecuted as Richard Spencer recently said in a NPI conference.
    Those flakes have zero clout except among a tiny fringe group of eccentric nazi salute throwing losers.

    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    Everything must be done quietly.....like a bunch of White folks voting for Trump.....it's the silent majority.
    Everything must be done quietly.....like a bunch of White folks voting for Clinton.....it's the silent majority.
    Everything must be done quietly.....like a bunch of White folks voting for Johnson.....it's the silent majority.
    Everything must be done quietly.....like a bunch of White folks voting for Stein.....it's the silent majority.
    Everything must be done quietly.....like a bunch of White folks voting for McMullin.....it's the silent majority.



    This guy's nonsense makes more sense than your nonsense:


    Anyways - as may now be apparent, serenesam's real agenda here is to smear Trump.
    Last edited by Neil; 11-23-2016 at 10:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    Another thing is he needs to get re-elected in 4 years.
    That's if he wants to run again. Let's suppose he does want to run again, and let's suppose that as unlikely it is that he's a bigot, he actually turns out to be a bigot. Well, even some bigots wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot by revealing their true colors, I mean true identity, I mean - nevermind. The same could've been the case with Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. Notice that George Herbert Walker Bush didn't get re-elected, because he said "Read my lips! No new taxes!" then he went on to raise taxes during his first term. He should've waited until his 2nd term, but instead he shot himself in the foot (that's assuming he really did want to get re-elected for a 2nd term).

    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    Like all labels, you will have people that will claim Alt-Right.

    You will have people that want to ruin it for you.
    LMAO - dude, I'm pretty sure the problem isn't with the label; it's with you guys.

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    I honestly believed this movement was about the realization that politics and traditional values are irrelevant to changing the doomed status quo. To transcend the divisions, and grow resourses towards a truly sustainable and free society. I can't believe I just joined for enlightenment and unification with all humankind, instead I seem to have slipped on dog crap and fell into another bloody Trump debate. 😔

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meesh View Post
    I honestly believed this movement was about the realization that politics and traditional values are irrelevant to changing the doomed status quo. To transcend the divisions, and grow resourses towards a truly sustainable and free society. I can't believe I just joined for enlightenment and unification with all humankind, instead I seem to have slipped on dog crap and fell into another bloody Trump debate. ��
    Well you are in the Human Condition Thread sooo .... .

    This is our current state of affairs that we have to deal with today and is our Toughest challenge in trying to reform so we must make an effort to try and understand All Groups even as offensive or unpleasant that can be sometimes.

    Visit another Thread and I guarantee you will find something more Inspiring.
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