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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL9000 View Post
    We've been trying to stress the importance of environmental conditioning again and again to no avail.

    I guess some people just view the world differently....
    We could say that 'everyone' has a different world view, no? 'Everyone' has a different personal perspective based on the knowledge pursued, the experiences endured, and probably some genetics too...

    But we should not allow our personal truths to get in the way of collective progress and an expanding human consciousness....But we will...

    "The truth depends on where one stands"

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    Isn’t it interesting that some people in The Alt-Right believe in some form of universal basic income and a single payer health care system? For a moment there, who would have known that what some would call a bunch of “far-right-wingers” sound like a bunch of “far-left-wingers.”

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...lth-care-trump
    https://altright.com/2017/03/23/why-...al-healthcare/
    "Change is almost always negative. Things degenerate." - Woody Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    Isn’t it interesting that some people in The Alt-Right believe in some form of universal basic income and a single payer health care system? For a moment there, who would have known that what some would call a bunch of “far-right-wingers” sound like a bunch of “far-left-wingers.”

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...lth-care-trump
    https://altright.com/2017/03/23/why-...al-healthcare/
    Do I have a point about perhaps The Alt-Right isn't as sinister as it appears to be? Did I have a point when I said earlier (either in this thread or some other thread) that everyone whether they are Alt-Right, TZM, TVP, or RBE has the intention of wanting to see or create a better world?
    "Change is almost always negative. Things degenerate." - Woody Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    Do I have a point about perhaps The Alt-Right isn't as sinister as it appears to be? Did I have a point when I said earlier (either in this thread or some other thread) that everyone whether they are Alt-Right, TZM, TVP, or RBE has the intention of wanting to see or create a better world?
    You see, the ultimate question then becomes, of all those groups mentioned, who has the best approach to creating and maintaining an awesome society/civilization/world?
    "Change is almost always negative. Things degenerate." - Woody Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by serenesam View Post
    Do I have a point about perhaps The Alt-Right isn't as sinister as it appears to be? Did I have a point when I said earlier (either in this thread or some other thread) that everyone whether they are Alt-Right, TZM, TVP, or RBE has the intention of wanting to see or create a better world?
    Question,

    if thee Alt-Right fellers created an awesome Society/World for themselves but around them, other communities lived a much lesser poorer Life. Do you think that these folks would care to do anything to Help these other communities achieve what they have ? ponder away ....

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    > have a life expectancy that is 4.4 years less than

    Perhaps there is some variance depending upon the area they live, like in Scotland:

    https://news.gov.scot/news/wide-vari...as-in-scotland


    It is perhaps interesting to note some of the common aspects to areas with high expectancy, which are missing in those of low expectancy.

    If you make a wild guess, you will probably be right. :-)

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    > who has the best approach to creating and maintaining an awesome society/civilization/world?

    Sadly I'm not sure you can have both awesome and maintaining a civilization at the same time, due to the sustainability issue.

    Some related links, which I may have posted before, I can't remember !

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Tainter

    Is Every Civilization Destined to Collapse? ? National Geographic Society (blogs)


    In essence, to have sustainable, you may have to go back to more primitive solutions which fit in better with nature.


    I'm reminded of a group which appears to have done just that:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

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    > Free People walk where ever they want to walk, go wherever they seek to go......Borders are obsolete

    I can somehow imagine the second lot of people to arrive in America saying that to the first lot of people who was already there, back in the day, when the country was theirs.


    Reminds me of a question I asked once, about the legality of squatting in someone's tent who they themselves was squatting on someone else's land, if they wasn't there at the time, how might they feel about that issue.

    Or once they went home to their parents, if I then squatted in their front garden, how they might feel about that too.

    Whilst legally I might have the same rights as they do, the advice given was that it would quickly end up in violence when the other person disagreed with me squatting in their tent, or on their land !


    As such, it seems everyone is fine and dandy about doing things to other people, because they want to, and just make up whatever sounds good to justify their actions.


    It seems we haven't really evolved much beyond spreading our scent around to mark our turf, and fighting anyone else who wants to take is off us.


    Shouldn't borders be more like towns, you live in town A, I live in town B, we can be friends, we can visit each other, but we don't squat on each others lawns and take a dump. :-)

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    We're all 'squatters" on this planet....and we collectively lack or have forgotten how to use the tools needed to be stewards while we live here, instead we've become consumers 'willingly' eating our own tails.... leaving a bleak future for those yet to be born...

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    leaving a bleak future for those yet to be born...
    I wouldn't mind being born tomorrow.

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