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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Riedel View Post
    Also I don't think animals are greedy whatsoever. They take what they need and then become content.
    Yes because they're just looking for their Needs to be met. Humans created a System that keeps Wants & Needs Scarce and so we become Greedy & Hoard what is not readily available. So its the Environment that produces these outcomes mostly. Do an experiment and make everything freely available and Greed wouldn't be needed anymore. How would it make sense?
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    > I don't think animals are greedy whatsoever.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ired-for-greed
    > Labradors may be genetically 'hard-wired' for greed
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    > A study of labrador DNA revealed more than a fifth of the dogs carry a genetic variation which
    > could predispose them to food-seeking and weight gain

    This is why you ration your pets, and/or depending upon the breed, they just keep eating !

    Same applies to humans. :-)

    I've even tested this on myself. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > I don't think animals are greedy whatsoever.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ired-for-greed
    > Labradors may be genetically 'hard-wired' for greed
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    > A study of labrador DNA revealed more than a fifth of the dogs carry a genetic variation which
    > could predispose them to food-seeking and weight gain

    This is why you ration your pets, and/or depending upon the breed, they just keep eating !

    Same applies to humans. :-)

    I've even tested this on myself. ;-)
    Ummmm...Weren't humans responsible for creating the Labrador????

    ...anecdotal evidence is just that...anecdotal.... and is based solely on a 'personal' perspective....making it meaningless to all but the one presenting the alleged evidence....AKA;WYSIATI What You See Is All There Is....

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    > anecdotal evidence

    When you start to collect a lot of that, its called a study. :-)

    https://pethelpful.com/dogs/five-fat-dog-breeds

    > Dr Mark is a veterinarian in Brazil. He has been working with dogs for more than 40 years.

    Key part there is 40 years observing behaviours, you then start to notice patterns.

    I found the same with people, all I had to do was work with folk for decades and I began to see patterns.

    Lucky for me I had an open mind and didn't dismiss what I saw !

    I think the key moment for me happened when I started working with folk who had been adopted into different cultures, and yet still behaved as if they was from their biological culture, surely that shouldn't be happening I said to myself !

    So I pondered, maybe there are some genetic elements to behaviour in humans just as you find in farmyard animals of different breeds.


    As such, the line between what can we influence by environment today, but we have to breed for tomorrow interests me greatly.

    I can't do much about someone's genetics right now, so I have to take into account how greedy folk are today, and build solutions that work today that take that into account, rather than hoping folk will change and suddenly become nicer over night.

    This has radically altered my view on transition steps to take, on ones I reckon will be far more successful than previous approaches.

    So, out with the, hippies all get together and build a TVP city, and in comes, I have to build it entirely myself first !

    Well, I might meet a few folk who want to help along the way. :-)

    So I focus on projects I can complete entirely on my own without any outside assistance to move us forward one step at a time.

    That isn't to say assistance isn't welcomed, just that you can't expect it, when the vast majority of people are lead around by their genetics and are either unable to break free and think for themselves, or we have to rely on the few who are born differently who do want to help others.

    There are some middle ground bits, like say, crowd funding, which both marry greed and cooperation to produce something useful.

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    Will our self-inflated ego's lead us to an eventual destruction?....

    IMHO; The ongoing 'individualistic emphasis path' (an 'illusion based' trend for modern times), filling our heads with Delusions of Grandeur, seems filled with eventual/probable pain and general disappointments....

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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Will our self-inflated ego's lead us to an eventual destruction?....

    IMHO; The ongoing 'individualistic emphasis path' (an 'illusion based' trend for modern times), filling our heads with Delusions of Grandeur, seems filled with eventual/probable pain and general disappointments....
    People will figure it out eventually. Whether or not they do before it's too late is another story...

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    “What is history but a fable agreed upon?” - Napoleon Bonaparte, an ENTJ according to Celebrity Types.
    "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > I don't think animals are greedy whatsoever.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ired-for-greed
    > Labradors may be genetically 'hard-wired' for greed
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    > A study of labrador DNA revealed more than a fifth of the dogs carry a genetic variation which
    > could predispose them to food-seeking and weight gain

    This is why you ration your pets, and/or depending upon the breed, they just keep eating !

    Same applies to humans. :-)

    I've even tested this on myself. ;-)
    Do Animals even know what the concept of Greed is?

    They just might be overeating because it's a natural instinct. The food is given so they eat to survive. Like not Intentionally trying to look "Greedy", just behaving according to what their environment has available. Humans on the other hand can & do behave Greedy on purpose also because of their environment but more on a Conscious level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest View Post
    Do Animals even know what the concept of Greed is?

    They just might be overeating because it's a natural instinct. The food is given so they eat to survive. Like not Intentionally trying to look "Greedy", just behaving according to what their environment has available. Humans on the other hand can & do behave Greedy on purpose also because of their environment but more on a Conscious level.
    We've bred dogs to reflect our selves, our needs, our desires...with little thought to the end game.

    Human greed may not always be a conscious decision....it may have much more than we give credit to the centuries of conditioning we've all endured. Its why we tolerate the extravagance, the decadence of the well off....constantly fooling ourselves, due to this same conditioning, into 'wanting' the same decadence, in its many forms.......WANTING, WANTING, WANTING.....
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    “André Weil suggested that there is a logarithmic law at work: first-rate people attract other first-rate people, but second-rate people tend to hire third-raters, and third-rate people hire fifth-raters. If a dean or a president is genuinely interested in building and maintaining a high-quality university (and some of them are), then he must not grant complete self-determination to a second-rate department; he must, instead, use his administrative powers to intervene and set things right. That's one of the proper functions of deans and presidents, and pity the poor university in which a large proportion of both the faculty and the administration are second-raters; it is doomed to diverge to minus infinity.” - Paul Halmos, mathematician
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