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    > classes will develop once again.

    What's wrong with having classes ?

    Isn't it like saying, we shouldn't have any gold medal athletes because its unfair on those of us who struggle to even catch a ball..

    In my view, as long as the person who can't catch a ball to save their life isn't starving to death and homeless, and otherwise having perfectly acceptable life, what does it matter that some other group of people are in a different class, doing something else with their lives !

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > classes will develop once again.

    What's wrong with having classes ?

    Isn't it like saying, we shouldn't have any gold medal athletes because its unfair on those of us who struggle to even catch a ball..

    In my view, as long as the person who can't catch a ball to save their life isn't starving to death and homeless, and otherwise having perfectly acceptable life, what does it matter that some other group of people are in a different class, doing something else with their lives !
    When people talk about classes they usually talk about socio-economic classes....

    Why should 50 people have more wealth than half of the poorest people in the world combined? because they were born to the right family?

    Its really inheritance that i have problem with , not individual success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophicDrippins View Post
    Honestly, I can't explain why I'm so territorial
    fear maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > reward those who give the most.

    So, rich people then. :-)
    I don't know...

    In terms of calories-burned, who gives the most?
    In terms of glucose utilized in thought, who gives the most?
    In terms of self-sacrifice and sacrifice of time with family, who gives the most?

    The average ceo gets 335 times more than the average worker, so does the ceo give 335 times more to society than the worker?


    > I can't explain why I'm so territorial

    Oh I can !

    If someone has land they are more attractive than someone else who doesn't have land, so if you are landless, you could well be single !

    This is why humans fight over land, or access to land..
    The Millennials are increasingly seeing land and realestate as a burden, that's probably why Rhett said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhett Huntloy View Post
    Maybe people might transition to a more transient lifestyle, where the entire planet is able to be explored and experienced, without having to worry about not having somewhere to live?
    It's not just Millennials though... I tried to talk dad into buying a house down the road from me, but he said it was too big with too much land. It's too much to take care of and he didn't want the hassle. Most people would rather rent so they don't have the hassle of chores. That's probably why rent prices are so high... the privilege of NOT owning land is being bid up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > increase iq

    Doesn't that require selective breeding. :-)
    Maybe, but we also have to be challenged. The argument for the intelligence of the white man is that he had to learn to work with farming tools and to endure the cold winters. So as life gets easier, we could get progressively dumber.

    Saw this in the news recently One Boston Employer Gave Potential Workers A Math And Drug Test; The Result Was Disturbing | Zero Hedge

    One respondent said that during a recent six-month attempt to add to staff for a new product, two-thirds of applicants for assembly line jobs were screened out before hiring via math tests and drug tests; of 400 workers hired, only 180 worked out.

    Who remembers how to do math? Spell? Remember phone numbers? The more that is done for us, the dumber and more reliant we are going to be until we're a blob with a hole at the top for which to deposit food.

    It already happened to this poor bloke:



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    > women would choose the men who were

    Physically strong to help protect said woman.
    The problem is that, more times than not, the woman will need protection from her spouse rather than some random stranger in a dark parking lot.

    If you've watched the Sopranos you might remember that Jennifer Melfi was raped in a parking garage because she was by herself after work. Tony could have stopped it, but he wasn't there. However, Tony had threatened Jennifer more than once himself and broke her coffee table.

    When she needed protection from strangers, Tony wasn't there.
    When she needed protection from Tony, strangers weren't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL9000 View Post
    fear maybe?
    Probably. When friends or family come to pick veggies, I don't mind. But when strangers start wandering around, I get concerned.

    If the strangers would come ask first so I would have a chance to express my concerns and rely on their integrity to respect them, then it would be ok. But even then I have trouble because people lack integrity. I've asked one guy several times to stop hacking my saplings down for a better shot at deer, but now he only hacks the ones that he doesn't think I'll notice. It never ends and that's probably why there are fences and trespassing signs.

    Then there is the legality of it. If someone comes here and trips over a log and breaks their leg, then I'll get sued because I failed to clear a path.

    An insurance guy once told me a story of a man who drank too much at a bar then drove his car into a phone booth at the other side of a railroad crossing with the lights flashing indicating a train was coming. Because of the train, the guy swerved into the phone booth, killing the man on the phone. He asked me, "So who do you think got sued?" Well, the guy driving drunk was certainly at fault and the bartender might have had some culpability for letting him leave. The phone company got sued. They will always go after the one with the most money.

    Another story: A farmer let a some guys hunt his land and they accidentally shot a passing motorist. The farmer got sued.

    I was told that I cannot even have people sign a document relinquishing my responsibility for them on my property. In other words, there is no way to protect myself except to keep everyone off my property. There has to be signs every 50 ft along the perimeter and even that is questionable.

    So now even if my best friend comes and breaks his arm, he has to agree to lie and say he broke his arm some place else because his own insurance company could come after me. Even if I trust my friend, I can't trust his insurance.

    There are many reasons to be scared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouTuber View Post
    > classes will develop once again.

    What's wrong with having classes ?

    Isn't it like saying, we shouldn't have any gold medal athletes because its unfair on those of us who struggle to even catch a ball..

    In my view, as long as the person who can't catch a ball to save their life isn't starving to death and homeless, and otherwise having perfectly acceptable life, what does it matter that some other group of people are in a different class, doing something else with their lives !
    Maybe that was a bad choice of word or maybe "classes" need a qualifier as Hal pointed out. I probably just assumed everyone knew what I meant.

    There is nothing wrong with gold medal athletes so long as they really earn the medal rather than being given the medal because they're jewish or white or black or friends with the judge. You've heard the phrase "It's not what you know, but who you know."? So it's the "good ole boys club" classes where being kin to someone or friends with someone that gives you advantages over people who would be better qualified. Anytime there are classes of people, that is the type of thing it devolves into.

    So in a fair world, classes are fine. But in a morally corrupt world, not so much.

    Now if we change the currency from paper to merit points, nothing has changed because there is still a method of dividing people into classes and incentives to break rules to gain entrance into a better class.

    For instance, I'll contribute this many scientific discoveries and gain notoriety for it because I'm friends with the guys who judge my presentation and they'll cut me some slack because they know me and I'll likewise do favors for them by submitting science that furthers their goals for contribution-brownie-points. While the guy who is doing real science has his work nit-picked to death and can make no progress towards notoriety. Corruption will abound as long as there is incentive to be corrupt.

    Start at 25:30 and listen to Lord Monckton describe the difficultly in getting work published:

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophicDrippins View Post
    I don't know...

    In terms of calories-burned, who gives the most?
    In terms of glucose utilized in thought, who gives the most?
    In terms of self-sacrifice and sacrifice of time with family, who gives the most?

    The average ceo gets 335 times more than the average worker, so does the ceo give 335 times more to society than the worker?




    The Millennials are increasingly seeing land and realestate as a burden, that's probably why Rhett said:



    It's not just Millennials though... I tried to talk dad into buying a house down the road from me, but he said it was too big with too much land. It's too much to take care of and he didn't want the hassle. Most people would rather rent so they don't have the hassle of chores. That's probably why rent prices are so high... the privilege of NOT owning land is being bid up.
    Yeah...its all part of an elaborate plan that has the HAVES holding the Land and the rest of us RENTING from them. ...Paying to exist.... WTF?

    When did God start handing out all those Land Deeds anyway, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by droneBEE View Post
    Yeah...its all part of an elaborate plan that has the HAVES holding the Land and the rest of us RENTING from them. ...Paying to exist.... WTF?
    The plan includes also holding the money(capital) in addition to land. they rent their money in a form of loans to the have nots becoming even richer in the process....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL9000 View Post
    The plan includes also holding the money(capital) in addition to land. they rent their money in a form of loans to the have nots becoming even richer in the process....
    Money has value because 'we' give our own power away....

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